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  Reason why I reject the Bible

  by refiners fire in

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  some christian clear this up for me willya?

  christians are saved thru the mediation of christ right?

  if thats the case, will someone tell me why god spent 3000, 2000 years, however long, stuffing around with patriachs and israelites?

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  pomegranate

  Hes never done JACK SHIT for me

  He let's you live. So, I guess your life is JACK SHIT huh?
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  Reason why I reject the Bible

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some christian clear this up for me willya?

  christians are saved thru the mediation of christ right?

  if thats the case, will someone tell me why god spent 3000, 2000 years, however long, stuffing around with patriachs and israelites?

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  pomegranate

  Would you walk into a discussing on these grounds?:

  " well, He is an idiot."

  I may be wrong, but by the power of the above statement, it sounds like you are set in your ways no matter what anyone says.

  "As to what "good it would be to me", well, who knows, maybe I can be convinced to be a believer by the power of your arguement."

  I will never convince you of anything. I believe it is God alone who convinces who He wants.

  I have found that my logical reasoning can be someone elses finger pointing non sense. If God wants you to know the truth, He'll tell it to you. If He doesn't want you to know the truth, He will remain silent while you call Him an idiot.

  If I were God, I don't think I'd reveal anything to a man that just called me an idiot. Would you? Do you think a haughty man blaspheming God is what He wants to draw close to?

  But then again, you don't believe, so again, what does it matter to you?
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  Reason why I reject the Bible

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some christian clear this up for me willya?

  christians are saved thru the mediation of christ right?

  if thats the case, will someone tell me why god spent 3000, 2000 years, however long, stuffing around with patriachs and israelites?

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  pomegranate

  Even if someone had the true answers to these baited questions, what good would it be to you?
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  Does god love children?

  by kelsey007 in

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  many people claim that the god of the bible loves children and fetuses.

  but what does the bible say?

  according to god's law, children are not persons but the property of their fathers, who may sell them as slaves.

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  Will God ever intervene in mans affairs?

  Didn't Jesus say so?

  Is God going to bring about the mass destruction of human society as he has done in the past?

  Didn't Jesus use Noah's day and Lot's day as an example for the coming finale'?

  Who will survive?

  Rom 9:14-17

  14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,

  "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
  and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."

  16 It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.

  Isn't the truth that God will have mercy on WHOMSOEVER HE DECIDES? Isn't it HIS choice on who shall be given the gift?

  What is the criteria for them to be saved?There can be none. Because if there were ANY criteria to be saved, then man is saved by works, and grace and mercy become null and void.

  Are we just going to grow old and suffer all along the way?I believe until Father's allotted time is up, we shall live in a life that is both good and bad. Accentuate the positive, and minimize the negative...keep the hope. Without hope, one is hopeless.

  My understanding which gives me hope.

  Edited by - pomegranate on 21 September 2002 12:26:24
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  Does god love children?

  by kelsey007 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many people claim that the god of the bible loves children and fetuses.

  but what does the bible say?

  according to god's law, children are not persons but the property of their fathers, who may sell them as slaves.

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  pomegranate

  Ps 58:3
  3 Even from birth the wicked go astray;
  from the womb they are wayward and speak lies.

  Rom 3:10-18
  10 As it is written:

  "There is no one righteous, not even one;
  11 there is no one who understands,
  no one who seeks God.
  12 All have turned away,
  they have together become worthless;
  there is no one who does good,
  not even one."
  13 "Their throats are open graves;
  their tongues practice deceit."
  "The poison of vipers is on their lips."
  14 "Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
  15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood;
  16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
  17 and the way of peace they do not know."
  18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."

  For the LOVE OF GOOD, TRUTH and RIGHTEOUSNESS, God has every right to destroy what he DEFINES AS BAD, EVIL and CORRUPT. Including those "from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward and speak lies."

  Children are NOT innocent. They are BORN GUILTY.

  Some will NEVER believe that truth.
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  I'll Be Hangin Around for Awhile

  by scumrat in

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  i know, i never formally introduced myself when i signed onto this board.

  however, a little bit about me.

  i was raised as a witness since age 10. my mother and my 3 siblings are all witnesses.

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  I know scumrat PERSONALLY. He has been to my house and we have enjoyed each other's time togther, along with sisteract. BOTH are some of the finest examples of NEIGHBORS I CAN LOVE that I can think of.

  We all hurt from them (WTBTS). BUT WE CAN ALL HEAL TOGETHER.

  HEALING IS GOOD.
  TOGETHER IS GOOD.

  Let's all heal together.
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  Does god love children?

  by kelsey007 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many people claim that the god of the bible loves children and fetuses.

  but what does the bible say?

  according to god's law, children are not persons but the property of their fathers, who may sell them as slaves.

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  pomegranate

  The God of the OT (same as the NT) has the right to deal with the garbage that A&E produced the way HE AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS saw then, see fit now. Better read the NT a little closer. Your definition of God's "cruelty" is there and shall return to those God DOESN'T choose.

  God has the right to kill the sperm and the egg. God has the right to kill the embryo. God has the right to kill the infant. God has the right to kill the child. God has the right to kill the man and woman.

  WHY?

  Because everything produced from A&E and their offspring, are defiled and corrupt by Satan. They (corrupt man) are HIS creation, and Satan's creations are AGAINST GOD and God's creation.

  God forced EVERY man to be Satan's creation by a design called INHERITANCE. Sinners have no choice. You were forced to be a sinner. Like it or not.

  God loves HIS children not Satan's children. If ALL men are of sin and of Satan, then God's chosen have to BE BORN AGAIN.

  Being born is the choice of the CONCEIVER not the conceived, so don't think being born from God is a choice to man...it is a choice by God and a GIFT to man. God chooses which men to give the gift to. The choice of God comes BEFORE a man can accept.

  Just as Satan "fertilized" A&E from good into bad with his own spirit, so God will ferilize HIS chosen by fertilization of HIS own spirit by HIS OWN CHOOSING, from bad into good.

  God loves HIS children, and God knows who HIS children are just like a shepherd KNOWS HIS OWN SHEEP.

  Edited by - pomegranate on 21 September 2002 8:53:11
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  A complex question who of you knows the answer?

  by MARTINLEYSHON in

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  if baptism washes away your sins, as taught by jws, what prevents a disfellowshiped person who has moved to a new area and is not known in that area in attending meetings as an interested person and getting baptised within 6 months.. has anyone ever done that?

  if so can the person be disfellowshipped a second time?

  what would be his status.

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  Baptism = Death

  Rom 6:2-4
  We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
  Funny thing about water. You can't live within it, and you can't live without it.
  The very substance that life is dependant on, is also quite capable of ending life.

  That reality was not creatd by accident.
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  While JW's stagnate, others grow

  by Gopher in

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  http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/3238618.html

  mormons, evangelicals led '90s church growth

  published 9/18/2002 .

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  pomegranate

  John 13:35
  "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
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  What song best describes you?

  by mamashel in

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  my family was playing around the other day, humming different songs from tv shows and getting the other one to guess what show it was.

  then we asked what song best describes you.. my family agreed, mine would be ghetto girl, by little bow wow.

  lol.

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  pomegranate

  The Revealing Science of God by YES
  
  

  Dawn of light lying between a silence and sold sources,
  Chased amid fusions of wonder, in moments hardly seen forgotten,
  Coloured in pastures of chance dancing leaves cast spells of challenge,
  Amused but real in thought, we fled from the sea whole.
  Dawn of thought transfered through moments of days undersearching earth
  Revealing corridors of time provoking memories, disjointed but with purpose,
  Craving penetrations offer links with the self instructors sharp
  And tender love as we took to the air, a picture of distance.
  Dawn of our power we amuse redescending as fast as misused
  Expression, as only to teach love as to reveal passion chasing
  Late into corners, and we danced from the ocean.
  Dawn of love sent within us colours of awakening among the many
  Won't to follow, only tunes of a different age.
  As the links span our endless caresses for the freedom of life everlasting.

  Talk to the sunlight caller
  Soft summer mover distance mine.

  Called out a tune but I never saw the face
  Heard but not replaced
  I ventured to talk, but I never lost my place
  Cast out a spell rendered for the light of day
  Lost in lights array
  I ventured to see, as the sound began to play

  What happened to this song we once knew so well
  Signed promise for moments caught within the spell
  I must have waited all my life for this
  Moment moment

  The future poised with the splendour just begun
  The light we were as one
  And crowded through the curtains of liquid into sun

  And for a moment when our world had filled the skies
  Magic turned our eyes
  To feast on the treasure set for our strange device

  What happened to wonders we once knew so well
  Did we forget what happened surely we can tell
  We must have waited all our lives for this
  Moment moment moment

  Starlight, movement, reasons
  Release forward
  Tallest rainbow
  Sun shower seasons
  Life flower reasons

  They move fast, they tell me,
  But I just can't believe that I can feel it
  There's someone to tell you,
  Amid the challenge we look around in unison with you

  Getting over overhanging trees
  Let them rape the forest
  Thoughts would send our fusion
  Clearly to be home

  Getting over wars we do not mean
  Or so it seems so clearly
  Sheltered with our passion
  Clearly to be home
  They move fast, they tell me,
  But I just can't believe they really mean to
  There's someone, to tell you,
  And I just can't believe our song will leave you
  Skyline teacher
  Warland seeker
  Send out poison
  Cast iron leader

  And through the rhythm of moving slowly
  Sent through the rhythm work out the story
  Move over glory to sons of old fighters past.
  Young christians see it from the beginning
  Old people feel it, that's what they're saying.
  Move over glory to sons of old fighters past.

  They move fast, they tell me,
  But I just can't believe they really mean to.
  There's someone, to tell you
  A course towards a universal season.

  Getting over overhanging trees
  Let them rape the forest
  They might stand and leave them
  Clearly to be home
  Getting over wars we do not mean
  We charm the movement suffers
  Call out all our memories
  Clearly to be home

  We've moved fast
  We need love
  A part we offer is our only freedom

  What happened to this song we once knew so well
  Signed promise for moments caught within the spell
  We must have waited all our lives for this
  Moment moment

  Past present movers moments we'll process the future, but only through him we know, send flowered rainbows
  Apiece apart chased flowers of the dark and lights of songs to follow and show all we feel for and know of
  Cast round
  You seekers of the truth accepting that reason will relive and breath and hope and chase and love
  For you and you and you.