Posts by CovertsadJW

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Wow , it’s all so very clear -

by CovertsadJW in

the late great christopher hitchens states that religion is poison and i believe that with my soul.

we are “ born sick and commanded to be well.” under threat of death- both of my parents were abused both physically and emotionally, my wife was what it sounds like verbally abused - the strange part is they don’t see that they are attached to a very abusive religion.

thoughts ?

CovertsadJW

The late great Christopher Hitchens states that religion is poison and I believe that with my soul. We are “ born sick and commanded to be well.” Under threat of death- Both of my parents were abused both physically and emotionally, my wife was what it sounds like verbally abused - the strange part is they don’t see that they are attached to a very abusive religion. Thoughts ? I pout out abuseve practices but my parents do not see it - but that’s not a new problem and I’m not unique. I just now see how it damages people , relationships , causes depression , anxiety , etc. It’s a horribly devistating faith with no room for humanity. The fuzzy parts are far outweighed by the Pharisee - like teachings

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Pillowgate - John Cedars

by CitizenofEarth in

is this true?

is this really true?!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.

CovertsadJW

While so funny; its really sad-I mean not one JW is taught how to grow up and address his or her sexuality in a health, non destructive way. We are taught to suppress , sex is dirty, desire is dirty, that leads to all kinds of problems. Just stack this on top of all the other controlling behavior and Wow thats all I can say.

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What was your trigger to waking up ?

by CovertsadJW in

good afternoon , .

i wanted to ask everyone here , what was your trigger to waking up ?

i have been waking up for a long time , but in looking back it’s hard for me to look at one event and say “ ah ha “ , i think mine is like a slow leak - like a crack in a damn - and then hold on , because after that it’s just a flood of information.

CovertsadJW

Thank you everyone

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I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.

by Heathen Dan in

jw
friends

this is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).

first of all, i've left being a jw in june.

since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.

CovertsadJW

Welcome Dan,

When I think about love and respect one quote comes to mind. “ What you do speaks so loudly I can’t hear what you say.” The actions are not loving and kind - words included - you did something I wish I could do today - you are strong and find and surround yourself with people who love and respect you.

Warm regards

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What was your trigger to waking up ?

by CovertsadJW in

good afternoon , .

i wanted to ask everyone here , what was your trigger to waking up ?

i have been waking up for a long time , but in looking back it’s hard for me to look at one event and say “ ah ha “ , i think mine is like a slow leak - like a crack in a damn - and then hold on , because after that it’s just a flood of information.

CovertsadJW

Good afternoon ,

I wanted to ask everyone here , what was your trigger to waking up ? I have been waking up for a long time , but in looking back it’s hard for me to look at one event and say “ ah ha “ , I think mine is like a slow leak - like a crack in a damn - and then hold on , because after that it’s just a flood of information. Side point- I was in a semi not so rare mood lately , not over the top but just amazed and disgusted at rh same time. In speaking with my dad I said “ I cannot believe “ Tony the Tight Pants Morris “ can sit there and provide graphics detail on how you will “ die” at Armageddon, lay dead in the streets, smell of the flesh , etc and think that’s okay - that is abuseive and threatening people with death 💀, - then I realized I have been threatened with death my whole life - My dads thought - well don’t let your emetions control you. What ? Wait ? This is okay ? Inhad strong words but not emotional crazy- I said I reject the people “ threatening me with permanent destruction. Inaslo said my kids should not be listening to this crap- fear and emotional control - but he make me out to be he slightly emotional one. I did tell him that I am not the one threatening a group with death- how is that moral or healthy to hear your whole life ?

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You or Family at Uni? Bye bye Ministerial Servants Position

by snugglebunny in

kingdom ministry school.

2018 service year.

programme for congregation elders: file:///c:/users/michael/downloads/kms-tk18-e_no8.pdf.

CovertsadJW

The more iI dig , the more I can’t stomach it. The GB talks out of both sides of their “ arses “ - this is designed to put maximum pressure on those who take “ the lead “ - in turn they can put maximum pressure on the followers - who then can eventually put maximum pressure on their kids , the studies , etc. Brain washing at its finest - this makes me so mad - that’s why I don’t want my kids part of this damn cult. What a bunch of bull shit -!

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A Little Direction Please

by Brian J in

i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

CovertsadJW

I am in the same position, but unfortunately I am unable to poke holes in the teachings-so I am mostly silent. I am fading, but my wife sees that and she gets so angry. I have come to the conclusion over so many months that their is no good -pain free options-only what may work for you. If my wife would accept and discuss the failings of the WT, that would make life so much easier. She refuses to discuss anything WT-reality not negative-with me. I have the right to stand up for what I believe just as much as she does, and I have just as much right to explain to the kids that the WT is not the right place to put your trust, and future. I have read stories of people planting seeds of doubt, but I am unable to do that; my wife picks up on that and gets angry every time. I love the examples of family research, family discussion about topics, and a slow process where everyone eventually comes to the same conclusion. I am unable to take that path in my home-I have tried multiple times. I am painted in a bad light to my kids; so it is painful and more painful. She immediately knows what I am up to, but its so hard to stay silent as when you really listen to the " language" used at the KH's ,its depressing, manipulative, guilt-ridden, anxiety producing bull-shit. She was proud of our son that was reading along during the last WT about education( Jan 21) -I almost vomited when I read that crap. Manipulation, Manipulation, controlling-watching my kids be partially brainwashed is very hard. This is not going to end well I don't think- I cannot even close to fake it anymore. I want my kids to have a normal life, be confident, pursue a dream, fin their place in the world out side of some crazy cult.

Frustrated.

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A perfect guidebook ? Really

by CovertsadJW in

if jehovah is a “ perfect “ god and our everlasting life is in the balance - why then does a perfect god give us a very imperfect guide book “ bible “ one that is open for interpretation hundreds - or more - different ways.

if you look at it as an instruction book , it most likely is the worst written instruction book in mankind’s history.

i cannot interpret an instruction book on “ flying a plane “ , it only has one interpretation as your life depends on it , but alas it was written by imperfect men.

CovertsadJW

I have been taking to my father about some of these things and my mom - not to change their minds just to sort some out - but that is not safe. I asked my mom “ may I ask you one question ?” She said fine , but you know how I feel about Jevovahs organization and the imperfect men.”’I just realized that talking to anyone I know is not safe either intellectually, etc. I also just realized that as mention in other responses -it’s a waste of time and energy- I have to take care of myself. I am close to my parents but that page might be turning as they sense my discomfort with the JW teachings, my wife’s family knows something I’m sure. This is sad - I am getting pre-shunned - for wanting to know truth and facts only.

The number of adherents do not make it real.

The fuzzy and warm feeling does not make it the truth.

The mind control is amazing - not even willing to look at facts- but I learned my lesson. Again thank you as this is my safe space for revealing the “ truth” about my true feelings.

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A perfect guidebook ? Really

by CovertsadJW in

if jehovah is a “ perfect “ god and our everlasting life is in the balance - why then does a perfect god give us a very imperfect guide book “ bible “ one that is open for interpretation hundreds - or more - different ways.

if you look at it as an instruction book , it most likely is the worst written instruction book in mankind’s history.

i cannot interpret an instruction book on “ flying a plane “ , it only has one interpretation as your life depends on it , but alas it was written by imperfect men.

CovertsadJW

If Jehovah is a “ perfect “ god and our everlasting life is in the balance - why then does a perfect God give us a very imperfect guide book “ Bible “ one that is open for interpretation hundreds - or more - different ways. If you look at it as an instruction book , it most likely is the worst written instruction book in mankind’s history. I cannot interpret an instruction book on “ flying a plane “ , it only has one interpretation as your life depends on it , but alas it was written by imperfect men. Simple truth

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Sorry to hear that you left the "truth"

by eyeuse2badub in

the other day i ran into a jw who just happened to be my very friend during my jw days (which were most of my life).

so for about 60 years we were each other’s very best friend.

we grew up together from about 8 years old and are the same age, now in our early 70’s.

CovertsadJW

The JW / GB do a great job programming people - it’s hella creepy. In retrospect I cannot recognize or understand my lack of critical thinking - thought process.