so this weekend there was a part about not following jesus at a distance.
the speaker made a big point of stating that any baptized jw male who was not either appointed ms/elder, or at the very least "reaching out" actively, was in fact following jesus at a distance.
he said that the only way to live through the big a was to follow jesus closely.
I wish you had a recording of that manure.
I also wish I had what he said recorded. I just couldn't handle sitting there closely listening to everything, but when he said this I really perked up.
Of course I did manage to take a few brief notes as things were said that made me think WTF. I will try to share a few over the next few days either on this thread or others that I won't be hijacking by making those comments.
so this weekend there was a part about not following jesus at a distance.
the speaker made a big point of stating that any baptized jw male who was not either appointed ms/elder, or at the very least "reaching out" actively, was in fact following jesus at a distance.
he said that the only way to live through the big a was to follow jesus closely.
So this weekend there was a part about not following Jesus at a distance. The speaker made a big point of stating that ANY baptized JW male who was not either appointed MS/Elder, or at the very least "reaching out" actively, was in fact following Jesus at a distance. He said that the only way to live through the Big A was to follow Jesus closely. And just like those old time Jews who only followed Jesus at a distance lost out on life, so too would any today who profess to follow Jesus, but do so at a distance.
So there you have it guys. If you are not, or do not want to be, either a MS or elder, and are not engaging in active crack kissing you are going to die at Armageddon.
what was it that moved your child to return to jehovah?
asks the speaker.. .
well it was the missed association with the family, says brenda sutton proudly and unflinchingly.. andd heres why, i had always told our kids... i would die for you, i love you, would die for you, but if you ever leave jehovah i wouldnt be there.
hello friends during the weekend i was in the san diego regional convention and the number of baptisim was way down.. there were 51 who got baptise thats the lowest number i ever seen, the attendance was 14,000 plus .
inspired by the humour in cappytan's thread, i thought of a way those who are still forced to attend meetings can have some fun.... especially with the increase in articles with topics about "listen, obey and be blessed", a subtle method of having fun would be to substitute the expression "the governing body" wherever "jehovah" "jesus" is said.. imagine an answer such as this:.
"yes, this paragraph helps us to see how vital it is to listen and obey the governing body".
"yes, our strict obedience to the governing body is a way to show how much we love them".
Great idea stuck.
I have been using the term "members of the governing body" wherever the WT uses fds. I recently got reprimanded for that. the eldurr said that Jesus called them the faithful slave, not governing body.
once again jehovah has decided to light a candle so jw's can see where they are going.. they went to great lengths to explain that feeding the hungry anointed, thirsty anointed, giving them clothing, housing and visiting them in jail means the preaching work (distributing literature).. this is indeed noble when you consider that the right-hand sheep do this not even knowing who they are helping.. if the sheep are oblivious of who they are helping they must not recognize these "least" ones as christs brothers.. and what is their reward for unknowingly, blindly helping christs brothers?
they inherit the kingdom that was prepared for them from the founding of the world.
the new-lighters conspicuously avoid explaining what kingdom they inherit and how they inherit it.. do they inherit the kingdom that flesh and blood can't inherit.
Parable: a usually short fictitious story that illustrates a moral attitude or a religious principle.
Prophecy: the inspired declaration of divine will and purpose.
Illustration: a picture or diagram that helps make something clear.
So the WTB&T$ throughout these articles called these stories alternately illustrations and parables (which are two completely different things) and applied them as if they were prophecy.
As for sheep and goats, if it is an illustration, then it is simply a word picture to make clear that to be a sheep one should show the qualities of those who go to Christ's right hand. It cannot, by the WT own words, be a prophecy as they stated the sheep and goats were not literal. And it also cannot be a parable as then the story would be fictitious. (Of course we all know it is)
well i finally got the, "we would like to stop by with the circus oversneer and have an encouraging visit.
would ---------day be good, at say -----------?".
it'll probably be a pretty dull visit with the entire conversation being only one way.
Well they came, and they went.
The entire conversation of some forty-five minutes can be summed up as:
C.O. & S.O. "Brother, you must reach out! Do more!"
OFS "Hmm."
Good-bye.
they just posted the simplified august study watchtower on jw.org.. paragraph 11 of the "expectation!
" article says this:.
"so even if we feel that we have been waiting a long time, this does not mean that the end is far away or that it is not coming in our lifetime.".
Wait a minute, it says in our lifetime? WTH? The circus oversneer just said last Tuesday, "We are in the last days. Soon we will find ourselves in the last day of the last days."
So what happened to being in the last minute? Geez, this gets more goofy every day!
some background:josie the miniature schnauzer is now 12 years old, so she's old enough to know the difference between right and wrong.
however, she insists on peeing in the middle of my beautifully tended lawn, which, as a consequence, is now covered in brown patches.
i've remonstrated with her a number of times and each time she purports to show a diplay of repentance, that is, she slinks away on her belly with her ears flattened down tightly to her head.
You can only perceive her as "bad association" and mark her.
I tried to mark my dog, but all I succeeded in doing was pissing down my own leg. Does that count?
obviously this weeks' wt has been part 3 of big changes in the doctrine.
at the end i answered up saying along the lines of: "as we can see from the illustration box, when it comes to the reward being given to the slaves, divine appointment was not given in 1919. this will happen in future when the anointed get taken before armageddon".
i couldn't bring myself to say "raptured at armageddon" as i think people might have taken a closer look at me...but it felt good to call out publicly the bull sh#t date of 1919 .
Q. How has this article refined our understanding of the parable of the talents?
A. As the article immediately preceding this one states, "Humans cannot know which Bible accounts are shadows of things to come. Where Scriptures do not specifically teach that something is typical of something else we accept it as such." So with the parable of the talents we have "our" understanding now refined to the fact that what we knew to be represented by all facets of this parable now only have a partial application, and the rest is just letting us know we need to stay busy, always doing more.
Heads bobbing like it was a Halloween apple tank.
