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  Not training speakers/teachers any more?

  by eyeslice2 in

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  not having attended any meetings since about 2001, for reasons of safety (sounds a bit dramatic but i don't like my wife being out on her own late at night where we live now), i have started accompanying her to the mid-week meeting.. when i was young, the ministry school and service meeting were central to training brothers to take the lead.

  you were assigned instruction talks, then if you cut it, you moved pretty rapidly to public talks - a full 55 mins at the time.

  i was just 18 years old when i gave my first public talk and this was a first step to moving rapidly through the ranks.

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  iwantoutnow

  Yes its over a long time ago.

  It started with ending the Bookstudy at homes, which was a major way you got MSs to start learning.

  Then the Instruction talk was cut out, big blow to having a chance to learn how to speak publicly, and to teach.

  Then the Public talk was cut from 1hr to 30 min, which was VERY good since 90% of speakers made you want to stick a fork in your eye. But again LESS TEACHING.

  Then the School getting cut.

  All meetings basically being VIDEOS.

  ITS ALL ABOUT INDOCTRINATION AND KEEPING PEOPLE FROM THINKING AND DOING RESEARCH.
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  Lack of zeal

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hear rumbling about the rank and file not having the same zeal they had when new.. lets see: door to door at the time least likely to find someone.

  waste of a whole morning.

  isolated.

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  iwantoutnow

  jookbeard

  I watched my zeal waver and dwindle away into inactivity and atheism...I was praised for my zeal,enthusiasm and public speaking LOL

  Me too - same experience!
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  Lack of zeal

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hear rumbling about the rank and file not having the same zeal they had when new.. lets see: door to door at the time least likely to find someone.

  waste of a whole morning.

  isolated.

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  iwantoutnow

  When Elders have most teaching time taken away.

  When Service is more about showing videos.

  When standing at a Cart for hours is touted as effective ministry.

  And when you declare 105 years of kingdom activity.

  That's when people are like, ok, I would rather go watch TV.
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  105 yrs.of Jesus Christ Rule is About To End ....What has Been accomplished ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at this pace its going to take more than a thousand years to make earth a paradise .by my reckoning.. what have the g.b.

  been saying about his kingdom reign now that its gone over 100 years ?

  and what he has accomplished ?.

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  iwantoutnow

  Well - millions have been ensnared and given up normal lives.

  Millions have had shitty sex lives full of guilt and frustration.

  Millions have married someone out of desperation for sex, or because the pool to choose from was "their congregation", thus being STUCK with the wrong person.

  Millions taken up shitty low paying jobs instead of having fulfilling careers.

  Millions have substituted fake conditional friendships instead of having life long real friends.

  Millions have lost family because they were unbelievers.

  Millions have given their money to an evil organization.

  To many have died at the hands of governments who just wanted them to have a piece of paper.

  To many have died because of not taking normal medical help.

  SO LOTS HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED!
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  3 New Letters Arrived!--2019-December!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2019 december brd newsletter.

  https://docdro.id/odvxhqr.

  2019-s-1-e-congregation field service and meeting attendance report.

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  iwantoutnow

  

  As opposed to how Newly Interested Ones - RUSH to Midweek meetings?
  

  What a JOKE!

  Just OWN that no one but Born-Ins come to meetings, and its hard to even keep them coming!
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  "Get Over It!"

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
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  this is what my children tell me... get over the whole jehovah's witness thing!

  yes, they tell me they have gotten over the whole thing and they tell me that and i need to also.

  my exgirl friend who was raised as a jw also has said the same thing.. my children say they got over it, however they are quick to point out how messed up their lives are now because of no college education and other missed opportunities.

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  iwantoutnow

  Hmm - exactly how do I get over losing 48+ years of my life?
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  Do You Think “Higher Education “Is All That??

  by minimus in

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  as jehovah’s witnesses, we were regularly told how awful a college education is.

  i’m no longer associated with the religion but i am not so pro university.

  it’s not because i think you are better off without a degree.

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  iwantoutnow

  I am so career limited because I did not get a degree. I can't get hired for what I should be at this age for my line of work.

  And I have to admit - rightfully so.

  Not having a degree, also meant that I was not able to climb the ladder in my profession the way it should be.

  I always relied on "someone knowing me", or a contact, or really just going it alone.

  I went to county college, but got so much pressure to leave, I never finished the first semester.

  I wish I did.
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  Do You Think “Higher Education “Is All That??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as jehovah’s witnesses, we were regularly told how awful a college education is.

  i’m no longer associated with the religion but i am not so pro university.

  it’s not because i think you are better off without a degree.

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  iwantoutnow

  I find it interesting ,that those who characterise higher education negativity, for the most part have not attended university.

  I find it quite predictable really.
  
  
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  Do You Think “Higher Education “Is All That??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as jehovah’s witnesses, we were regularly told how awful a college education is.

  i’m no longer associated with the religion but i am not so pro university.

  it’s not because i think you are better off without a degree.

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  iwantoutnow

  I tried my hand at Brain Surgery, by my lack of a degree kept me from getting my foot in the door.

  Bastard Liberals!
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  Do You Think “Higher Education “Is All That??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as jehovah’s witnesses, we were regularly told how awful a college education is.

  i’m no longer associated with the religion but i am not so pro university.

  it’s not because i think you are better off without a degree.

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  iwantoutnow

  Minimus you comments are always so insanely right wing you seem like you could be a GB member yourself.