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  Magic

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the april 2019 study edition page 20 has an article on resisting wicked spirits.

  it says "magic refers to practices associated with the occult, or the supernatural.

  it can include curses and the casting or breaking of spells.

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  iwantoutnow

  I still was an Elder when this happened. I freaked out a couple older sisters.

  We were at a "gathering" and they were talking about how all these "spiritistic movies are out now", like it was something new.

  I was already PIMO too. So I was getting annoyed under my skin.

  I was asking them what is "magic" and they gave the answer - demons using their powers to do something that couldn't be done.

  I asked them, what's a "miracle"? God or angels doing something with their powers that could not be done.

  Then I asked them, who gave demons the power to do "things that could not be done normally"?

  "well I guess jah did, but....."

  Then I said, well if the power came from the SAME place, and it does the same thing "do something that could not be done normally", using the word miracle or magic, is just semantics right?

  And most people when they hear the word magic, they think of what magicians do, which everyone know is sleight of hand or complicated tricks. No one thinks David Copperfield actually made the statue of liberty disapear, right?

  OMG you could smell the short circuits in their heads, and the Cognitive Dissidence was in full swing.

  I am sure they didnt think of me the same after that, though what I said was 100% true.
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  How Can You Recognize True Worship?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  had to laugh when i read this in the good news from god publication on the website.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/good-news-from-god/recognize-true-worshippers/.

  basically, watchtower just rattling of a list of things they (claim) to do when trying to identify "true" worship.. the closing question though, "which religion bases all its teachings on god’s word, honors god’s name, and proclaims god’s kingdom as mankind’s only hope?

  which group practices love and shuns war?

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  iwantoutnow

  No way to do that - but you can recognize "True Believers"

  And they are a dangerous bunch usually.
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  New Upcoming Changes - No More Publisher Record Cards & Reporting Hours

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  publisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away.

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  coming soon.. made this post 4 years ago, it happened - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/24020002/kingdom-consolidation-sales-coming-reliable-source.

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  iwantoutnow

  They are leaving in droves

  
  I don't think there is any evidence of that. The growth rate is the same as it has been for a long time. DF rate is about the same. Growth is just over population growth average.

  No one is coming in really, only kids getting baptized mostly.

  If people were leaving in droves (which is what we ALL hope for) the yearly numbers would go down and not up.

  
  
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  Happy Fathers Day

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it felt so good to read a card from my youngest son today.

  it was a funny card about duct tape and cussing.

  it was a day of joy for me being it was my first fathers day card from my son since he and his family left the cult.

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  iwantoutnow

  Thanks - Happy Fathers day to all!
  
  My youngest daughter made me breakfast - sent out a beautiful instagram - and is making me dinner.

  Makes me happy:)
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  What is the biggest doctrinal mistake made by the Watchtower /JWorg. ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  personally i think it is 1914 and the following " this generation " doctrine.. this particular doctrine went right against jesus's own words of " no one knows of the time not even he " .

  he also admonished his true followers to not set a time upon god's own sacred time .. the leaders of the wts even back to the late 1800's set a time calculated on their own theology 1874 being the first time set and proclaimed by c t russell, also proclaiming 1914 would likely be the year of the final day of judgment armageddon.

  all throughout the 20th century the wts held to this doctrine but was eventually revised of course when it was realized this generation had passed away who saw the events of 1914. .

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  iwantoutnow

  That there is a god.
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  New Upcoming Changes - No More Publisher Record Cards & Reporting Hours

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  publisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away.

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  coming soon.. made this post 4 years ago, it happened - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/24020002/kingdom-consolidation-sales-coming-reliable-source.

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  iwantoutnow

  Publisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away.

  Haaa - NEVER!

  Well... that will happen right after having Gay Sex at the KH during the Memorial isn't a DFing offence.
  

  ELDERS will always know your FS time - and be the ones giving it to the WT.

  It is a MAJOR way of controlling the congregation.
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  Everyone in a Cult, Doesn't Know They Are in a Cult

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that's the one thing they all have in common.

  because as soon as you are aware that you are in one, you would of course leave it,.

  so millions of people all over the world are in them and but of course are ignorant of this fact.. i was asked many times over the years in field service, the question.

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  iwantoutnow

  I didnt believe I was in one for almost my whole life.

  That's why I try to be realistic and kind about those still IN not seeing what we see as so obvious.

  As many of us remember - waking up took a long time - with lots of conflict - pain - and horrible choices.

  And prior to that, we just fed on the teet of the WT that poisoned our minds to what was reality.
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  Something I just realized!

  by Nikki collins in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  now that i'm out if i ever do find someone and settle down and start a family, my parents wont be a part of it.

  my dad wont walk me down the isle if i get married, if i have kids they wont know their grandparents.

  oh and by the way i had my freaking tubes tied so as not to have kids in this system.

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  iwantoutnow

  So much we gave up being JWs and so much more we give up leaving the cult.

  It's a life of loss however you slice it.

  I think about my kids, when they get married (if they choose to), instead of a wedding with a few hundred people and tons of family, it will be quite small, with almost no family.

  Makes me very sad.
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  Quick Story

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so one night i'm at a meeting.

  it's the beginning of the meeting and a brother is up on stage introducing the parts for the night.

  he's going through the parts and then he says, "...and apieceofshitnamedtate will be handling our bible highlights.".

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  iwantoutnow

  He than introduced the sister for part 3. She's all surprised and says she didn't know she had a part. So he does part 3.
  Then he asks if there is anyone who volonteered for part 4. No one answered, so he did part 4 as well

  Been there done that. Of course at the time (since my value was in being an elder and a great speaker) I didnt mind it cuz IT MAD ME LOOK GOOD! I was the capable hero.

  All makes me sick right now. The "school" was is such a joke!
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  Quick Story

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so one night i'm at a meeting.

  it's the beginning of the meeting and a brother is up on stage introducing the parts for the night.

  he's going through the parts and then he says, "...and apieceofshitnamedtate will be handling our bible highlights.".

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  I was the School Overseer, and after a few years when I got really good at it. I had no issues doing an of the parts as a sub.

  I would of course look all the parts over that week. In reality, as long as you're comfortable speaking in public, and you know the info somewhat, none of the parts are had.

  The Brother Talks, or the Student talks are really so so basic. The bar for what the audience expects is SOOO low.

  I generally was happy for last second cancellations because I felt that I could provide better and more useful information that might actually help someone, or encourage someone, more than the 1/2 literate elders could do with a weeks prep.