Posts by blankspace

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India Branch and Branch committee

by cognitivedizzy in

jw
friends

i heard most of the top brass have been ousted and replaced for foreign brothers and several in top position have been deleted from the india branch...is this true... any one have info on latest developments.....

blankspace

Yes this is true. Here are some threads that can bring you up to date with what's happening:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5147737289916416/developments-india-branch https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6261234237177856/somethings-happening-india

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Developments in the India Branch

by MaxPayne in

the following letter was read in the congregation today.

it's for all the congregations in india.

i have pasted it as it was.

blankspace

Bumping this thread with a short note as I just have a few minutes while on a work break.

1. The India branch will begin using literature again since digital publications don't really work in the majority of the country.

2. The GB didn't know how illiterate Indians in general are and they were misinformed - hence the earlier shutdown of the printery. Now that they are aware of the need for literature, they are focusing on existing literature to start off and then will get literature orders again. Another letter was read out to congregations recently - I'll try to get a copy and post it online.

3. Literature will be shipped from abroad and not printed in India.

4. Increased focus on covering unassigned territory especially in the North of the country.

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Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

by pale.emperor in

former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

it reads rather culty.

i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

blankspace

When you're really deluded, you'll be more than happy to sign that. When you're desperate for acceptance or when you completely believe that you're doing God's work, you will sign that. And then when the rose-colored spectacles lose their charm and you start waking up, you shake your head in disbelief and wonder what in the world possessed you to sign something like that. I was one of them!

On the other hand, there are many who sign the vow of poverty and find loopholes to their benefit. And there are a lot of loopholes if you look hard enough.

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Masionic Rings worn on right hand.

by WildSteve in

did anybody see august 2018 broadcasting yet?

masionic rings always worn on the right hand little finger, these are gatekeep rings.. brother let shows his in a big way, and then the other old brother who was in prison in spain, when he tells his story they realy make a big deal on his gatekeeper masionic ring on his little finger of his right hand..

blankspace

OMG the Kerfuffles are making me ROFL!!!

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Child trafficking issues in India

by MaxPayne in

this is the message that was posted on the jw inbox announcements tab.

i have copy pasted it as it was.

if anyone from india has any information related to this, please do share.. regards.. urgent: child trafficking accusations.

blankspace

@careful, joint families are generations that live together in one huge house. You'd have your parents, grandparents, great grandparents if they're still alive, maybe uncles, aunt's, cousins and your own kids. While not all joint families are this huge, most have at least 3 generations staying together. And the oldest ones have absolute authority. So there's no point of being the head of your house because you still have to let your 95 year old grandmother make major decisions.

It's a bit different in cities though.

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Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

by BlackSpirit in

jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

blankspace

@BlackSpirit - Try to have original thoughts and don't just copy and paste from literature. Oh wait! I just realized that you're not supposed to have original thoughts because that's (gasp) "independent thinking".

Just because a religious group is persecuted doesn't mean they are right. The Jews were given multiple chances to get their act together but when they didn't, they were rightly given over to the nations to be punished. Was this fair? Definitely.

Now coming to JWs. I personally believe in the core teachings of the JWs but I disagree with the nonsense they do. Are they the true religion? Let Jehovah decide. Why are they being persecuted?

Option A: They are the truth.

Answer: Leave it to Jehovah and stay out of it. Remember what happened to Uzziah.

Option B: They are reaping what they sowed just as ancient Israel got it.

Answer: Don't get in the way of Jehovah's punishment or else you will get caught in the middle too.

I believe it's the latter. I'm PIMO, staying undercover with the front of an uberdub so that I can watch what happens from the frontlines.

By the way, I don't think you can count your time on this forum. Try to meet your pioneering hours some other way.

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Child trafficking issues in India

by MaxPayne in

this is the message that was posted on the jw inbox announcements tab.

i have copy pasted it as it was.

if anyone from india has any information related to this, please do share.. regards.. urgent: child trafficking accusations.

blankspace

Oops. My bad! I got so caught up with writing that I gave too much away. Thanks for the heads-up @LoisLane.

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This is getting annoying!

by blankspace in

there are some jws that are downright annoying!

check out the comments in the link to this article.. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/techie-jumps-to-death-from-bengaluru-workplace/articleshow/64549735.cms.

i would love to post a comment to his comment, drawing attention to child abuse, the arc, un affiliation and much more, but i've got to sign in to comment.

blankspace

There are some JWs that are downright annoying! Check out the comments in the link to this article.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/techie-jumps-to-death-from-bengaluru-workplace/articleshow/64549735.cms

I would love to post a comment to his comment, drawing attention to child abuse, the ARC, UN affiliation and much more, but I've got to sign in to comment. And the news site asks me for too much information - not comfortable with giving it at this point. If any POMOs would like to, do post your comments on my/our behalf. I'm sick and tired of seeing such comments from JWs wherever they can sneak a word in. They try to take the limelight away from the actual news and make it all about themselves.

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LEAKED: HuB Project 2018 [4 parts + 3 sub-videos]

by Fay Dehr in

https://youtu.be/q5vy2teaiuo.

leaked: hub project 2018 [part 1 of 4] https://youtu.be/q5vy2teaiuo.

leaked: hub project 2018 [part 2 of 4] https://youtu.be/8mjfucowkos.

blankspace

I had a short-term project with a computer department at one of the branches. I can't say which one because lurkers from within can track me easily. They take ages to implement something. It has to go through so many channels and there's always someone to shoot it down. The internet sucks. Nothing is free from monitoring. And new technologies are never implemented unless there's a legal need - and even then there's always some sort of spiritual twist to it. One of the worst types of people to deal with is a self-righteous, misogynistic techie.

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Child trafficking issues in India

by MaxPayne in

this is the message that was posted on the jw inbox announcements tab.

i have copy pasted it as it was.

if anyone from india has any information related to this, please do share.. regards.. urgent: child trafficking accusations.

blankspace

Chipping in to add my mite here. India has a massive problem with rape, shoving cases under the carpet and victimizing victims. Most victims hesitate to go to the police even if they are told to, because of social stigma. Add to this equation instances of elders and even circuit overseers discouraging victims from going to the police or even from getting therapy because "therapists can use sorcery on people".

The cases I've mentioned earlier are on file at the branch office. Sadly, those papers lie dusty in a corner along with the many others that have been sidelined. In fact, the bethelite who molested the girl I wrote about - he's been assigned to serve in a sign language group in a remote part of the country. He confessed to abusing a child in the past, but that was covered up and he's not even on the list. I shudder to think what's going to happen to the many kids he comes in contact with - worse still, the deaf ones! The CO, by the way, is back and still among kids.

The good news is that there is a group of PIMOs in India who are putting together a list of cases to present to the media. Going to the judiciary in India doesn't help as much as going to the media, and hence this move. As far as I am aware, this group is having a hard time convincing victims to testify. To begin with, there is the problem of social stigma even if you're not a JW. So if it's known that a boy or girl was abused, they become "used goods" here. The girl's life is over and the boy is labeled as being weak. In addition to this, if you're a JW, you lose your family if all are in. India has a lot of joint families and family closeness counts. Losing this can have a larger impact than it could have in more developed countries. And if your family isn't part of the congregation, you'll anyway be tormented with people saying "we told you so". India doesn't have a proper system of therapy or emotional aid for victims. A person who visits a therapist is labelled "insane" - that's probably why you've got so many crazies both in and out of the organization.

With all of these factors against the victims, it's generally a trend to try to just bury the past, pretend it didn't happen, and move on. I'm not sure how successful the group will be, but I guess if they get at least one victim to testify, that will be a gamechanger.

With this being said, there's been a spurt fake videos that have gone viral - these videos claim that there are child traffickers in the area. Because of these videos, there've been a number of lynchings and deaths of innocent people. This has especially happened in villages - they didn't even spare an older woman. Now since JWs go out in twos, they look pretty suspicious. And since they're urged to speak to even little children, they look even more suspicious. I believe they've come under the scanner primarily because of this. I don't think there's trafficking in India but there definitely is a lot of child abuse in the organization. I'll anyway check with a source at the local branch office and try to find out what's happening.