Posts by blankspace

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Serious Problems Between Elders

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

ever encountered or eyewitnessed problems escalating, arguements and rows between elders right at the kh anyone?.

one such experience was just before the meeting was about to start,we heard raised voices from the second room between two elders.

a minute later two other elders went into the room and we could all hear that they were trying to cool the situation down with whatever was going on in there.

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Where I grew up, I saw elders come to blows outside the hall while the meeting was in progress. The r&f didn't know what was going on. I found out because I was a curious 5 year old who suddenly found her daddy missing and sneaked away to find him. And I found him held back by two "brothers" while one was getting ready to hit him. I later found out that was because dad was the circuit account servant and had found irregularities in the books. And those were the brothers fudging the numbers.

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A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

by Tallon in

hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

blankspace

Wasn't too bad for me because I was never submissive and too thick-skinned to be affected by others' comments - until I went to bethel. That's where I learned my "place". But funnily I was assigned to a role in one of the more "elite" departments that would rarely be given to a lowly woman. It was fun to see grown-ass men swallow their pride when they had to get information approved by me. My husband is an open-minded guy and treats me as his equal. He's been an elder for many years and is also PIMO now.

On a side note, I hate the concept of head coverings. It isn't even scriptural and is an entire doctrine founded on a single scripture that applied in principle to an earlier era. I guess it gives the boys' club a kick to see smart women with a cloth on their heads. I find it plain humiliating.

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An interesting explanation for the sale of India Branch property

by Ireneus in

yesterday i was talking to a witness who has some connections with witnesses in india.

when i mentioned about the plan of selling the branch property, he was saying ‘this is a clever move as they fear a ban in that country as recently happened in russia.’.

this shows what type of trust they have in jehovah!.

blankspace

There's tons of rumours going around about the reason for the sale. In reality, the branch sale was planned years before the Russian ban. The branch was built with aggregated funds donated worldwide and there was always a risk of the government clamping down on them and seizing the property after the ban on foreign donations came into effect. In fact, the current government has even started seizing temple treasures to compensate it's financial deficit. So the plan to sell the branch has been around for a while now. Finding a buyer took time and so did legal formalities. It's still going to take a year or so before the property is handed over to the new owners.

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India Branch and Branch committee

by cognitivedizzy in

jw
friends

i heard most of the top brass have been ousted and replaced for foreign brothers and several in top position have been deleted from the india branch...is this true... any one have info on latest developments.....

blankspace

Yes this is true. Here are some threads that can bring you up to date with what's happening:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5147737289916416/developments-india-branch https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6261234237177856/somethings-happening-india

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Developments in the India Branch

by MaxPayne in

the following letter was read in the congregation today.

it's for all the congregations in india.

i have pasted it as it was.

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Bumping this thread with a short note as I just have a few minutes while on a work break.

1. The India branch will begin using literature again since digital publications don't really work in the majority of the country.

2. The GB didn't know how illiterate Indians in general are and they were misinformed - hence the earlier shutdown of the printery. Now that they are aware of the need for literature, they are focusing on existing literature to start off and then will get literature orders again. Another letter was read out to congregations recently - I'll try to get a copy and post it online.

3. Literature will be shipped from abroad and not printed in India.

4. Increased focus on covering unassigned territory especially in the North of the country.

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Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

by pale.emperor in

former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

it reads rather culty.

i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

blankspace

When you're really deluded, you'll be more than happy to sign that. When you're desperate for acceptance or when you completely believe that you're doing God's work, you will sign that. And then when the rose-colored spectacles lose their charm and you start waking up, you shake your head in disbelief and wonder what in the world possessed you to sign something like that. I was one of them!

On the other hand, there are many who sign the vow of poverty and find loopholes to their benefit. And there are a lot of loopholes if you look hard enough.

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Masionic Rings worn on right hand.

by WildSteve in

did anybody see august 2018 broadcasting yet?

masionic rings always worn on the right hand little finger, these are gatekeep rings.. brother let shows his in a big way, and then the other old brother who was in prison in spain, when he tells his story they realy make a big deal on his gatekeeper masionic ring on his little finger of his right hand..

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OMG the Kerfuffles are making me ROFL!!!

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Child trafficking issues in India

by MaxPayne in

this is the message that was posted on the jw inbox announcements tab.

i have copy pasted it as it was.

if anyone from india has any information related to this, please do share.. regards.. urgent: child trafficking accusations.

blankspace

@careful, joint families are generations that live together in one huge house. You'd have your parents, grandparents, great grandparents if they're still alive, maybe uncles, aunt's, cousins and your own kids. While not all joint families are this huge, most have at least 3 generations staying together. And the oldest ones have absolute authority. So there's no point of being the head of your house because you still have to let your 95 year old grandmother make major decisions.

It's a bit different in cities though.

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Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

by BlackSpirit in

jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

blankspace

@BlackSpirit - Try to have original thoughts and don't just copy and paste from literature. Oh wait! I just realized that you're not supposed to have original thoughts because that's (gasp) "independent thinking".

Just because a religious group is persecuted doesn't mean they are right. The Jews were given multiple chances to get their act together but when they didn't, they were rightly given over to the nations to be punished. Was this fair? Definitely.

Now coming to JWs. I personally believe in the core teachings of the JWs but I disagree with the nonsense they do. Are they the true religion? Let Jehovah decide. Why are they being persecuted?

Option A: They are the truth.

Answer: Leave it to Jehovah and stay out of it. Remember what happened to Uzziah.

Option B: They are reaping what they sowed just as ancient Israel got it.

Answer: Don't get in the way of Jehovah's punishment or else you will get caught in the middle too.

I believe it's the latter. I'm PIMO, staying undercover with the front of an uberdub so that I can watch what happens from the frontlines.

By the way, I don't think you can count your time on this forum. Try to meet your pioneering hours some other way.

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Child trafficking issues in India

by MaxPayne in

this is the message that was posted on the jw inbox announcements tab.

i have copy pasted it as it was.

if anyone from india has any information related to this, please do share.. regards.. urgent: child trafficking accusations.

blankspace

Oops. My bad! I got so caught up with writing that I gave too much away. Thanks for the heads-up @LoisLane.