Posts by pistolpete

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How Life May have Started on This Planet Without YHWH

by fulltimestudent in

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some may be interested in this research from the scripps research institute.. this research and its conclusion builds on previous work, quote: "in a study published in the chemistry journal angewandte chemie, they demonstrated that a simple compound called diamidophosphate (dap), which was plausibly present on earth before life arose, could have chemically knitted together tiny dna building blocks called deoxynucleosides into strands of primordial dna.. the finding is the latest in a series of discoveries, over the past several years, pointing to the possibility that dna and its close chemical cousin rna arose together as products of similar chemical reactions, and that the first self-replicating molecules -- the first life forms on earth -- were mixes of the two.".

read more at this science daily web-site .... link: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/12/201228095428.htm.

pistolpete

I personally believe in a creator and all life on earth is the result of intelligent design.

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Now that all the cat claws are out and ready to strike, let me elaborate.

By creator, I don’t mean God or Jehovah. But something or someone with intelligence. Maybe even a “Group of Beings” with intelligence, involved in some project.

What was the purpose of creating life one earth? I have no idea. There doesn’t seem to be any communication of sorts, or some sort of manual on how to run things on this planet, let alone on why all life was created.

If I was to explain what life is all about based on the hard evidence I see around me, and consider the history from the past that we’ve been able to save and study, it would seem like the creator was more like a kid with an ant farm. Or Creators with a sophisticated lab!

Life on earth does not evoke good intentions. The way some animals are designed to be docile, friendly, harmless, and other animals designed to survive by killing the docile, friendly and harmless animals speaks more of some kind of lab experiment. One that has compassion absent from it.

Humans are worse because we kill for other reasons besides food. We kill for power, jealousy, to steal, to rape and a hundred other reasons. Is this what happens when the animal has higher cognitive functions?

With this in mind, I think the creators might have been looking for answers to certain possibilities. Is it possible for a creature of higher consciousness like that of a human mind, that is capable of transcending animal instincts, able to evolve to the point where the self destruct qualities of the need for power, jealousy and etc. can be completely eliminated?

I also think these creators that are responsible for life on earth are long gone----dead for a better word.

Just like today we have buildings that were created thousands of years ago by Human Creators. Yet these creators have been gone or dead for thousands of years.

For example; The Tarxien Temples. Year Built: between 3600 – 2500 BCE – Location - Tarxien, Malta

I think religion is keeping us humans from transcending. The belief in an afterlife is a good excuse to commit atrocities and still believe all is forgiven in the afterlife whether that be heaven or paradise earth.

But if everyone realized this was the only life we get, we would be more careful on the way we live our lives, instead of wasting time seeking the approval of some man-made deity and enriching the pastor, clergy, or Organization claiming to represent the rules of that deity.

I don’t think humans will ever know how life got started on earth unless some outside source gives us the information. But I’m sure there will be more stories on how it all got started.

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2020 was the best year for the Pandemic!

by pistolpete in

the watchtower sees the pandemic as a wake up call for inactive jehovah’s witnesses to wake up before it’s to late.. it’s a wake up call for all worldly people to takes sides with jehovah’s organization before the great tribulation breaks out world wide.

it’s a wake up call for all apostates to beg jehovah for mercy, meet with the elders, confess their sins, and accept the discipline meted by the elders, and (possibly----maybe----you may be concealed in the day of jehovah’s anger.).

on the other hand reality teaches us another thing.

pistolpete

The Watchtower sees the Pandemic as a wake up call for inactive Jehovah’s Witnesses to WAKE UP before it’s to late.

It’s a wake up call for all worldly people to takes sides with Jehovah’s Organization before the Great Tribulation breaks out world wide.

It’s a wake up call for all apostates to beg Jehovah for mercy, meet with the elders, confess their sins, and accept the discipline meted by the elders, and (Possibly----Maybe----you may be concealed in the day of Jehovah’s anger.)

On the other hand REALITY teaches us another thing.

Had the Pandemic hit just 15 years ago, 2005) we would NOT have had the technology to create the MRNA vaccines.

Had the Pandemic hit in 1990, we would NOT have had the internet where scientists and doctors could communicate with each other.

Had the Pandemic hit in 1976, we would NOT have been able to read the Genome of the Virus

Had the Pandemic hit any time before 2020, then instead of 1.4 million deaths world wide, the count might of been in the 100s of millions, possibly billions, considering that most of the world population lives in close quarters cities. And the entire world transportation, and food delivery system would have co-lapsed by now leading to desperation and world anarchy.

But in reality, the last 20 years have been especially good considering that mankind in General has attain more wealth than ever before. For the average citizen, child mortality, undernourishment, Global poverty, and Illiteracy has come down tremendously, and these are good measures for quality of life for your average citizen.

There has been fewer wars than ever before which is why it took over 2 million years of human prehistory and history for the world's population to reach 1 billion, and only 200 years more to reach 7 billion. People are just not being slaughter left and right or starving to death in great numbers, like in the past.

The problem with Dooms day rhetoric is not just Jehovah’s Witnesses, but the Media also needs to broadcast DOOMSDAY Scenarios every single day in order to make money and stay in business.

The Media’s constant barrage of Doom and Gloom, feeds the mindset of Jehovah’s Witnesses belief system. It also creates an environment that breeds Cult growth among populations.The Media actually has to create Dooms day scenarios. Other wise there would be no need for them.

See video below for more information

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfcGLoA1g8Q

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Suckers!

by hoser in

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politicians and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses have much in common.

somehow the rules don’t apply to them the same as the poor saps on the bottom of the heap.

1976-governing body after playing up 1975 to the flock and some making life altering financial decisions.

pistolpete

That's the reality of how the human species behaves and how the world really works. This is why so many do whatever they can to attain POWER.

The Bible says Knowledge is better than anything else.

But in real life Knowledge WITHOUT POWER-----is useless.

Lex Luthor: Books are knowledge and knowledge is power, ........The bittersweet pain among men is having knowledge with no power because... because that is *paradoxical*

Video time 1:07

https://youtu.be/bvEj5_EkzBs?t=66

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

pistolpete

slimboyfat

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1996331

13. What change in understanding of the identity of the higher powers was presented in 1929, and how did this prove beneficial?

13 In 1929, at a time when laws of various governments were beginning to forbid things that God commands or demand things that God’s laws forbid, it was felt that the higher powers must be Jehovah God and Jesus Christ. This was the understanding Jehovah’s servants had during the crucial period before and during World War II and on into the Cold War, with its balance of terror and its military preparedness. Looking back, it must be said that this view of things, exalting as it did the supremacy of Jehovah and his Christ, helped God’s people to maintain an uncompromisingly neutral stand throughout this difficult period.

I don't know what to say

I think looking at stuff like this for to long is not good for your mental health.

Poor JWs back then. They never figured it out.

This may explain why Steven Lett --------------------is Steven Lett

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

pistolpete

There was an infamous Watchtower Study in the 1990s that strongly implied that Jehovah intentionally misled JWs into a false understanding of Romans 13 because it bolstered their resolve in the face of hostile governments in the 1940s

WTF!!!!!!!!

I was a baby in 1990, so those my age and younger have never heard of this!

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

pistolpete

FedUpJW
"If Jehovah's Witnesses had been then what they are now, I would NEVER have become one!"

That's actually what's happening now with young born in jws. Exjw reddit gain 3000 new members in just a week.

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

pistolpete

slimboyfat

Plus belief is a spectrum anyway. It’s not as if you have true believers on one side and completely cynical JWs in name only on the other side. There will be some in either extreme, but there are gradations too.

Here’s what I think of that “Spectrum” of belief and how we can perhaps understand “Gradations” in BELIEF.

When Rutherford the Judge introduced the idea of a paradise earth for a GREAT CROWD, as a separate prize for those more attracted to Earth than to Heaven, the count-down began. The count-down being tied to the year 1914 and the Generation that would not die. The Idea was that anyone who saw what happened in 1914, and understood its significance, would also have the privilege of surviving the Great Tribulation and Armageddon without dying-----IF THEY REMAIN FAITHFUL TO THE ORGANIZATION.

This “Idea” created a “Range of Time” that could be measured and counted on for receiving a promise of Everlasting life ----if one remained faithful to this New Religious Organization that was now claiming that God had chosen as his “Only” visible channel on earth.

The Range of Time being defined as; ONE GENERATION----Before the Great Tribulation and the ushering in of God’s Kingdom of 1000 years.That meant--you had the chance of Not Dying!

So that first generation, second generation, third generation, and some fourth generation believed that ONE GENERATION was all this Wicked System of Things could last. It was a promise that was specifically laid out in the Holy Bible. It least it made sense back then when most people didn’t even have a bible to examine the context of what Jesus meant by “Generation”

Any person living at that time and who witnessed or was aware of WW1 and Charles Russell’s prediction of the year 1914 would inevitably be convinced that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society had something worth considering. I have to admit, had I been born in any of those generations and believed the Bible was God’s Word to mankind, I would have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Especially considering that in those days there was no internet, and much ignorance in all fields. Heck, most people had no TV, Telephone, or indoor plumbing. Only the wealthy had limited things that we today take for granted.

So for the next 70 some years all those people that joined the WT organization were True Believers.

But here is where your “Gradations” in belief start to appear----------1975

After 1975 the House started to crumble slowly. For those who had invested their life from the beginning; 1930s, and now in their 60s or so,----- the best choice would be to just wait it out another few years.

20 years passed quickly and they were gone, leaving the 2nd - 3rd and 4th generation to pick up the pieces. By the time the 2nd generation came into play, it was also to late for most of them.

But finally the 3rd generation entered the “Internet Age” Now exjw websites like Free-minds, this one, and others started popping up. Then someone published “The Gentile Times Reconsidered” and websites like this one started discussing main doctrine of the Watchtower Organization vs the Bible. Then the discussions started evolving into a Critical Analysis of the Holy Bible and before long, exjws were questioning, Noah’s flood, The Exodus of Egypt, etc.

So here we are now. 4th Generation of Jehovah’s Witnesses holding down the fort. The Belief ideology of the 1930 has been diluted into various strengths.

The only thing we know for sure is this, the belief ideology today is of different gradations for sure, but none of those gradations will ever come close to the “Strong unshakable Faith” in the promise that;

The Generation that saw and understood the events that started in 1914, will also be the Generation that will witness the Great Tribulation-Armageddon-----and never DIE!

Most born in jws know it a farce. They are fighting to go to school and live their own life. It’s a struggle for now considering the 4th generation is carrying some belief of Armageddon, but that belief is not as strong as the first generation of Jws. So a lot of conflict right now in jw families.

That train of Belief of the 1930s is long gone and as the years continue to pass, the higher the probability that the membership will dwindle to less than a million world wide in 30 years and up, when the last of the 4th generation is also finally gone.

Only a complete overhaul of all the doctrines, will allow such a religion that is sustained by “Last days that started in 1914 ideology” ----------- to survive.

You can’t keep preaching 1914 in a world that continues to become more and more educated and organizations like the Watchtower finally become easy Targets for media and Government to expose them for what they really are.

The Australia Royal Commission is just the beginning of a Governmental agency finally putting its foot down and exposing the Watchtower. Imagine 20 years from now,

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Mt 10:18 / JWdom

by Magnum in

mt 10:18 (nwt):.

and you will be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations.. how has this worked out for jwdom?

i always got the impression that jws would be brought before governments and would give some kind of grand, impressive witness.

pistolpete

And you will be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations.

https://people.com/crime/jehovas-witnesses-alleged-sex-abuse-oxygen-documentary/

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

pistolpete

Overrated

I say realistically about 2 to 3 million die hard JW'S that are not awaking up to the stupidity.

We're pretty close, I said 4 million. So this is what I think. The Reason the WT is selling all these Kingdom Halls, is because they have already done the research and anticipate that in 20 years they won't need so many Kingdom Halls. They probably already have a plan in place on how they are going to restructure the Organization differently once the TRUE BELIEVERS ARE ALL GONE.

IT'S JUST BUSINESS!

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

pistolpete

I have a few JW relatives who are True Believers. By this I mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the Governing Body even if it does not make sense.

All of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s There is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the WT is not God Organization.

Any jw under 50 years of age I don't consider, for the most part, a True Believer. Most have their doubts and are just hanging in there, until something happens to them personally, and start those wheels turning as a wake up call that something is not right, then research, then WTF---it's not the Truth. And others are just waiting for their parents to die so they can stop attending. Also another group is those who have a spouse that is a true believer. These also just attend to be with their spouse, but once that spouse dies, I doubt they will keep attending.

Then you have the young JWs being born Today and for the past 20 years. This group will never be what you call TRUE BELIEVERS. These were born in the internet era and are aware of all the hypocrisy like all the child sexual abuse. They also are aware of all the bull like the overlapping generation and they hate the door to door work. And these jw just don't want to live the JW TYPE OF LIFE.

So my question; In about 20 years, the majority of those True Believers will pass and be gone. These are the ones that continue to support the WT organization financially. This are the ones that will go down with the ship-so to speak.

I think that at this point today, the Organization mostly comprised of about 4 million True Believers world wide. These are individuals willing to go to prison if the need arouse.

With this in mind, what amount of Jehovah Witnesses can we expect in the year 2040??? I say about 2- million or so, members world wide, maybe less. This will be the last group before the WT turns into some fringe group like the Bible students who still follow Charles Russell.

But they will have members - ONLY IF- they do away with Shunning, Blood Doctrine, and all the other details in doctrine that make them a target by the public. Especially 1914 and 607 are dates that will need to be eliminated if the Organization is to survive.

Because in 20 years, if the Organization is still preaching that we are in the last days since 1914, it will be embarrassing for anyone to become a part of an Organization riddle with so many embarrassing flip-flops that anyone will be able to see and research for themselves.

The Organization can't keep preaching the LAST DAYS FOR 160 YEARS - 2040-1879 = 161 years- without intense ridicule from everybody.