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  Jesus, without sin and a perfect human being ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how could he be, regardless of how god impregnated mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the bible.. mary was subjected to the adamic sin like all other humans, so jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.. to believe otherwise is just deluding oneself imho .. the only way jesus could have been really without sin is if god created him the same way he created adam.. what do you think ?

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  pistolpete

  We are dealing with historical facts and trying to determine causal plausibility. So far, you haven't offered anything that would account for even one of the historical facts established by the majority of scholars

  No SB, I am dealing with historical and you are dealing with Faith. And there is a Big difference.

  A “Historian is not interested in what is possible, a Historian is interested in what is likely.

  The person of “Faith is interested is what is possible but not very likely.

  Historical Truth for us living today is different from Historical Truth from those living some 2000 years ago.

  Our idea of Historical Truth means “An Accumulation of Empirical—Verifiable -----FACTS.

  For the “Ancient Mind” in particular the early Christians, History was NOT ABOUT UNCOVERING FACTS. It was about revealing truths. “The stories that they crafted about Jesus, and the issue of Historical truth was irrelevant to the larger purpose of these stories, which was to declare something that is true about Jesus, like Jesus was the Messiah, that Jesus was of the linage of King David, that Jesus was the son of god, etc.”

  The Gospels were not Historical Documents in the way that we living today view historical documents.

  They were testimonies of faith, written by communities of faith. In other words the writers “Already Believed Jesus was the Messiah, or the Son of God. So when they Wrote the Gospels---IT WAS TO PROVE THEIR BELIEF.

  It was biased writing of belief.

  Thus the Gospels of Jesus were “An Argument-----NOT A WORK OF HISTORY.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  pistolpete

  Everyone including many conservatives Democrats are finally asking questions regarding the Vaccine, the lockdowns, and the mandates to wear masks.

  Why is it a mandate to wear masks, Lockdowns, and vaccines if the Governor and mayor allowed a 3 day music festival with thousands attending and the politicians running Chicago also attending without masks???

  Look at the evidence and not the "Expert" rhetoric.
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnElXk_MK1g
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  Jesus, without sin and a perfect human being ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how could he be, regardless of how god impregnated mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the bible.. mary was subjected to the adamic sin like all other humans, so jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.. to believe otherwise is just deluding oneself imho .. the only way jesus could have been really without sin is if god created him the same way he created adam.. what do you think ?

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  pistolpete

  What is a plausible scenario that would cause tens of thousands of hard-core orthodox Jews to stop making Saturday their day of rest and worship and change it to Sunday... right in their holy city of Jerusalem?-------------------------

  suddenly tens of thousands of orthodox Jews make Sunday their day of worship in honor of Jesus resurrection.

  SB, this argument is one of the most basic arguments I was taught in College when I was in the debate team.

  It's called;-----Argumentum ad Populum

  Also known as 'appealing to the people', this fallacy presumes that a

  "proposition must be true because most/many believe it to be true."

  Example;

  Everyone drives over the speed limit, so it should not be against the law.

  Just because a LOT OF PEOPLE do something, it does not make it the right thing to do.
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  Jesus, without sin and a perfect human being ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how could he be, regardless of how god impregnated mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the bible.. mary was subjected to the adamic sin like all other humans, so jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.. to believe otherwise is just deluding oneself imho .. the only way jesus could have been really without sin is if god created him the same way he created adam.. what do you think ?

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  pistolpete

  Really?
  

  CT Russell is dead, Muhammed is dead, Lao Tzu is dead, Zeus is dead, Plato is dead, Confucius is dead ...... all past teachers are dead, except one.

  Face the facts SB, JESUS IS DEAD.

  Has anyone seen him-----NO!

  Has he ever spoken to you----NO!

  WHY?------BECAUSE HE IS INVISIBLE.
  

  Where is his Kingdom that he spoke about------IT'S INVISIBLE.

  The whole world counts time by Jesus' existence because he walked out of a tomb. He said that if you listen to him, you can walk out of your tomb as well.

  How many people has he resurrected-----Not one---despite humans haves been here for millions of years.

  JUST NAME ONE PERSON THAT WE ALL KNOW AS PROOF SO WE CAN BELIEVE.

  The above 12 facts made popular by Dr. Habermas, are those that the majority of scholars, atheist and otherwise alike concede to be a minimum set of facts surrounding the resurrection of Jesus

  Really?

  How many scholars are there in the world???------Put the list below of HALF OF THEM that you say concede.

  So, here's your chance: What is a plausible scenario that would cause hard-core orthodox Jews to stop making Saturday their day of rest and worship and change it to Sunday? And, be willing to suffer shunning and their own death to do so?

  Do you know how many WOMEN, CHILDREN, are willing to strap a bomb on themselves and blow themselves up along with the infidels because they have FAITH they are doing the right thing.

  As for the Jews making Saturday their day of rest and worship and change it to Sunday, what does that really prove. JWs don't celebrate Christmas because they believe Jehovah disapproves and are willing die instead of celebrate it. All it means is that they are deluded.
  
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  pistolpete

  So what's more of a problem;

  Covid

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  The MURDERS, THE RIOTS, AND THE CRIME.

  And IF the virus is so bad----WHY WAS THERE A THREE DAY HUGE MUSIC FESTIVAL IN CHICAGO WITH MANY OF THE POLITICIANS ATTENDING---WITHOUT MASKS?????
  
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  Jesus, without sin and a perfect human being ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how could he be, regardless of how god impregnated mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the bible.. mary was subjected to the adamic sin like all other humans, so jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.. to believe otherwise is just deluding oneself imho .. the only way jesus could have been really without sin is if god created him the same way he created adam.. what do you think ?

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  pistolpete

  There is not such thing as sin.

  People do good things as well as bad things

  Bad things depend on culture and law.

  Having sex with many different women is bad in today's Christian Culture

  Having sex with 1000 concubines and wives was a Blessing from Jehovah, the SAME GOD of today's Christian Culture.

  So in the Old Testament, Jehovah is OK with having many women to have sex with

  In the New Testament Jehovah is not OK with men having sex with many women

  If you Change the New Testament with the Koran, then Jehovah is OK with men having Sex with lots of women.

  SIN IS A FALLACY-----And Jesus was just a dude that came up with some ideas that appealed to a lot of people just like Charles Taze Russell came up with some ideas that appealed to a lot of people.

  Both the teachings of Jesus and Charles Russell eventually evolved into different things and created tons of different sects.
  
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  Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all.. i'm 42 years old.

  i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.

  how many jabs have you had?.

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  pistolpete

  punkofnice

  DLH - WTWizard will show up

  The odd thing is, I enjoy reading WTWizard's take on things. It has a kind of fascination for me that I cannot describe. I don't think the forum would be the same without these barbed comments.

  Me too. He fascinates me.
  
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  pistolpete

  After all, the average (IFR) death rate of Covid is a mere 0.26% of those infected (this is a stat that the media consistently and deliberately refuses to mention to the public). This means that 99.7% of the public is in NO danger from Covid whether they are vaccinated or not.

  https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.13.20101253v

  Do the vaccines ensure better odds? Well, according to recent statistics from Massachusetts, not necessarily, as they report over 5100 infections and 80 deaths of fully vaccinated patients. The media keeps telling us that only the unvaccinated are dying, but this is a lie, like so many other lies they have been peddling when it comes to Covid. So, what’s the point of taking an experimental vaccine if the death rate of the virus is so low and the jab doesn’t necessarily protect you anyway?

  I am of the opinion that if you are elderly, have a medical underline condition like obesity because you don't exercise or eat healthy, or were born with some bad medical condition------then perhaps you should take the vaccine---------it's your life------but don't push it on us healthy, young, people who do take care of our health.

  If you are afraid of it spreading and you catching it----------STAY HOME.
  

  Why do you think Humans have survived all this time even though there have been numerous plagues throughout history? Because there will always be humans who have Strong, Healthy, immune systems that can beat just about any plague.

  Here is a BRIEF SUMMARY of the past year EXPERT ADVICE by "Expert" Fauci, and the Deep State Agencies who were not voted in by the people but have power over them, and the Democrats that rally for for all these power hungry people.

  What we are in danger of is this lab leak virus mutating, ------ and killing 100s of millions with no chance of ANY VACCINE HELPING anyone.
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTmQblV63I8
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  pistolpete

  "Dr" is rapidly losing meaning.

  Bill Cosby is a Dr.-----in Education---he knows everything----Let's ask him!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOu_MsjKp6s
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  What Will Happen If You Do NOT Get The Covid Vaccinations?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we are encouraged to all, if possible, get the vaccinations.

  if you don’t, we are told that we definitely could get the virus.

  fair enough.. but what happens if you decide you aren’t going to get the shots?

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  pistolpete

  Jeffro

  So is your understanding of probabilities really that poor, or do you just feel the need to deflect with irrelevant insults?

  Jeffro, do you not have a life?????

  Making petty remarks on actually nothing important. Look at the facts man and do the math.

  Maybe you have nothing better to do, ------but I do, and I'm not willing to to mess around with you inconsequential reasoning's.
  

  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/