Posts by pistolpete

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

This is what I am proposing regarding the articles (New Light) in the WT Study article and in the coming future WT study articles regarding the preaching work of door to door.

The Watchtower has revealed their cards on how they change major doctrine by the way they have handled Changes in main doctrinal matters in the past.

They start very slowly making small implications of change---until finally the COMPLETE CHANGE IN DOCTRINE reaches----Crescendo.

For example, this is how the Generation Doctrine changed over time and the indications that they take their sweet time in spilling the beans, so to speak. Usually it takes YEARS for complete change.

But the difference this time is the Pandemic that has forced them to stop the Door to Door preaching altogether----- PLUS all the Child sex abuse exposure on the internet and the New Media.

897 - A group of contemporary people

"Other uses of this Greek word (genea) prove that it is not used with the significance of race, but in reference to people living contemporaneously.... In other words, the signs mentioned will occur within a generation - epoch in the close of the age." Studies in the Scriptures Vol 4 pp.602,603

1927 - The anointed

"The irresistible conclusion therefore is that Jesus referred to the new creation [the anointed] when he said: This generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled. This then would be a strong indication that some members of the new creation will be on the earth at the time of Armageddon." Watchtower 1927 Feb 15 p.62

1951 - A fixed period of time from 1914 applied to worldly people

"The actual meaning of these words is, beyond question, that which takes a generation in the ordinary sense, as at Mark 8:12 and Acts 13:36, or for those who are living at the given period. So it was on this generation that the accumulated judgments were to fall. (Matt. 23:36) This therefore means that from 1914 a generation shall not pass till all is fulfilled, and amidst a great time of trouble." Watchtower 1951 Jul 1 p.404

1995 - A group of contemporary worldly people

"Jesus was not departing from his established use of the term this generation, which he consistently applied to the contemporary masses with their blind guides who together made up the Jewish nation. ... Jesus refers principally to contemporary people of a certain historical period, with their identifying characteristics." Watchtower 1995 Nov 1 pp.14,20

2008 - The anointed

"As a class, these anointed ones make up the modern-day "generation" of contemporaries that will not pass away "until all these things occur." This suggests that some who are Christ's anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins." Watchtower 2008 Feb 15 p.24

2010 - A fixed period from 1914 applied to the anointed

"He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation." Watchtower 2010 April 15 p.10
THE OVERLAPPING GENERATION WAS BEING CREATED.

The September 2015 JW Broadcast on tv.jw.org explained that the generation included any anointed that met Frederick William Franz, as he was born and baptised prior to 1914.

No doubt at this moment they have no concrete plans to abruptly STOP THE DOOR TO DOOR IMMEDIATELY.

They are probably formulating a PLAN B, to eventually stop the door to door forever and replace it with other safer methods of recruiting members, like cart witnessing and letter writing.

There are to many “WOKE” PEOPLE who will question the Jws on apostate information and the Child abuse problem-----thus leading to a bigger exodus from the organization.

Eliminating Door to Door would prevent this.

Plus reducing the need for members to gather together in large groups will lessen the possibility of more pedophiles taking advantage of the JW environment to abuse more kids, leading to more lawsuits which is KILLING THE CORPORATION’S MONIES.

So I expect them to at least TRY to re-institute the Door to Door preaching after the Pandemic, to at least get some indication of where they are headed as far a keeping the organization a float.

But I believe the plans to discard the Door to Door work is in the WORKINGS.

Maybe they are already also planning on limiting the meetings, to a one day a week----SUNDAY TALK and Watchtower Study

They HAVE TO GO MAINSTREAM and STREAMING, if they want to survive.

THEY REALLY HAVE NO CHOICE!

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

I've checked multiple translations and none of those say they are "large women"! The NWT (at Psalms 68:11) says "The women proclaiming the good news are a large army." It is there army that is said to be large, not the individual women.

It was a Jest DJW

See the above reply to----- Want2Leave

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

Pistol pete, i know some sisters that would be upset for your rendition of the scriptures, it’s true though the large army has become large women!

I was wondering how long it would take for some sharp fellow to catch it"

You won the prize Want2Leave

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

Mostly it is the women spending every morning on zoom chatting and writing letters.

Well, the bible prophesied this would happen

(Psalm 68:11) . . .Jehovah gives the command; The women proclaiming the good news are an army of large women.

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Three and a half more years of Biden ...

by LoveUniHateExams in

how is the biden administration doing so far?.

biden reversed trump's plans for the border wall, and now america has thousands of illegal immigrants entering from mexico.. strangely, biden didn't reverse trump's plans for withdrawal from afghanistan, and instead pressed ahead with his own brand of lunacy, literally running away from afghanistan and abandoning its people to the taliban.. what is it with biden?

is he senile or just incompetent?

pistolpete

Perhaps we need a universal govern..

That's how the Watchtower got started.

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The Stupidity Of The Biden Administration Knows No Bounds

by Simon in

so picture this, you are suddenly withdrawing troops after 2 decades in a country and, well, its all gone to shit.. how do you ensure that your vulnerable citizens and allies can get out when the airport is surrounded and no one can get through?.

option 1: it's a trick question surely?

you don't get yourself into this mess in the first place - you withdraw the citizens first, not last, duh!.

pistolpete

Biden Executive orders;

Let's pull out

Let's leave all the Guns, Heavy artillery, Missiles, Millions of rounds of Ammo for the Taliban

Lets give the Taliban the NAMES OF EVER AMERICAN and EVERYONE THAT SUPPORTED US

Lets give the Taliban the locations of every American and supporters who are hiding in secure locations

I'm the President, I have a HIGH IQ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho&t=3s

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Pfizer becomes first Covid vaccine to gain full FDA approval

by PaddyTheBaddy in

great news.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58309254.

pfizer's two-dose covid-19 vaccine has received full approval from the us food and drug administration (fda) - the first jab to be licensed in the nation.. .

the vaccine had initially been given emergency use authorisation.

pistolpete

If you've been keeping up with the news on covid, we are finally seeing "Some" results of how effective the vaccines really are. You have to be diligent because as soon as the Vaccine patrol sees the news on these people, they pull the story out and remove it.

This is the 34th one I've seen, and hope it's not removed before you all read it.

Another person, this time in San Antonio, who was fully vaccinated, caught covid and died a painful death. She was only 48 years old.

But she had some of the same identifying marks that the other vaccinated persons who were also vaccinated and yet CAUGHT COVID AND DIED A PAINFUL DEATH.

She was Overweight, had high blood pressure, and COPD.

These people reporting the news are still idiots and can't or won't see the real problem. Now they are blaming people who are UN-vaccinated for this person's death.

NO IT'S NOT THE UN-vaccinated people's fault that this woman died, IT'S THE FACT THAT THE VACCINE DIDN'T WORK FOR HER----period.

This virus is killing the elderly, and people who are not healthy either because of no fault of their own, (they inherited some medical problem)----- or because it is their fault and they don't take care of their health.

At the same time, thousands of people are reporting that they got Covid and were sick for a day or two, others a week or more------ depending on how healthy they were, They got the antibodies naturally and they are done. No worries about future side effects. NO Vaccine!

But there are people who want to push the vaccine on everyone.I

Slowly it's becoming obvious that the vaccines don't perform like it's been promised by faucci. MONEY IS INVOLVED IN PUSHING THE VACCINE ON EVERYONE. And FEAR IS BEING PROPAGATED TO ACCOMPLISH THE CAUSE.

And this shouldn't surprise us. Humans are greedy and liars by nature. They are Power Hungry and want more MONEY, no different than the Governing Body and how they treat their gullible members.

If you are elderly, or are young and have a medical problem, YOU ARE AT RISK, REGARDLESS IF YOU HAVE THE VACCINE OR NOT. Take precautions EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE GOTTEN VACCINE.

Me personally, if I was elderly, sickly, I would take the vaccine. Only because the evidence shows this virus is deadly to Old and sickly humans. But I would recognized that more than likely, the virus would still kill me even if I got vaccinated.

For all of you that are elderly-----STAY SAFE and HEALTHY.

https://foxsanantonio.com/newsletter-daily/family-mourns-after-fully-vaccinated-woman-dies-from-covid-19

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/family-mourns-after-fully-vaccinated-woman-dies-from-covid-19/ar-AANd9Ri

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Kabul Explosions!

by Iamallcool in

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/26/explosion-happened-outside-kabul-airport-pentagon-confirms.html.

pistolpete

Are we headed for a WAR?

10 US Marines, soldiers killed in Kabul airport explosion, officials say:

Dozens of service members have been wounded in the explosion as well, the officials added.

The death toll of the U.S. service members also is likely to rise, US officials tell Fox News' Jennifer Griffin.

A second explosion happened outside the Baron Hotel, sources say.

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

Didn't they teach all the members in the 70s-80s that the preaching work was what made a person a Jehovah’s Witness - and that all truly dedicated baptized members were meant to save lives?

Now they’re saying God just wants the members to be busy----------- as a test.

That’s HUGE!

. Only Jehovah’s witnesses are saved at Armageddon ----because they DID WHAT THEY WERE TOLD BY GOVERNING BODY!

THE PREACHING IS USELESS NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXPECT ANYONE TO RESPOND ANYMORE.

Of Course we all know that no one is responding because of all the Child sexual Abuse in the organization.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/pbworu/is_it_just_me_or_are_they_really_pushing_the_idea/

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

A few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the CO, why Jehovah would allow the Door to Door Preaching Work, to come to an abrupt end. This was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.

The CO told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the Governing Body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.

My Uncle asked; “What do you mean?”

CO said; “Focus on the WT study articles in the coming months”

I thought the CO was just bullshitting my Uncle. But lately there has been a lot of talk over on reddit about this very thing.

A few days ago one poster said this about the Latest Watchtower Study article, implying that the preaching work is actually----USELESS BECAUSE JEHOVAH ALREADY KNOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO RESPOND ANYMORE.

What do you all think? Is NEW LIGHT BEING INTRODUCED?

QUOTE FROM REDDITOR.

Is it just me or are they really pushing the idea that the ministry is completely useless? And the idea that God is asking millions of people to do something utterly pointless.

The only outcome is that a person is recognized as “following instructions”.

Here is the latest WT Study article that seems to be slowly introducing the idea that the Preaching Work is NOT ABOUT SAVING PEOPLE ANYMORE.

Everyone that is going to be saved ----is already in the ARK of SALVATION.

COULD THIS BE A PRELUDE TO GETTING RID OF DOOR TO DOOR PREACHING WORK??

REMEMBER HOW THEY SLOWLY INTRODUCED THE GENERATION CHANGE!

October 2021 Watchtower study edition ------Do Not Give Up!

11 Early witnesses of Jehovah faced unresponsive listeners. For example,

Noah was “a preacher of righteousness,” likely for decades. (2 Pet. 2:5) No doubt, he hoped that others would respond favorably to his preaching, but Jehovah gave no such indication.

Rather, when instructing Noah to build the ark, God said: “You must go into the ark, you, your sons, your wife, and your sons’ wives with you.” (Gen. 6:18)

And considering the dimensions and capacity of the ark that God told him to build, Noah may have realized that any response to his preaching would be limited. (Gen. 6:15)

As matters turned out, NOT ONE PERSON FROM THAT VIOLENT WORLD RESPONDED TO NOAH'S PREACHING.

(Gen. 7:7) Did Jehovah view Noah as a failure? Not at all! In God’s eyes, Noah was a successful preacher because he faithfully did what Jehovah had asked him to do.—Gen. 6:22.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2021/Do-Not-Give-Up/