Posts by pistolpete

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I just turned 75 and here is a giant steaming pile of my "Wisdumb"

by Terry in

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birthday wisdom magnum opus.

i was born 2 years after the end of wwii.. everything was in black and white.. harry truman was president.. mahatma gandhi was the spiritual leader of india.. .

by the time i was 5, a new-fangled invention called television.

pistolpete

Almost all of them are way unhealthy and look awful.

Terry that was a good post. It's true what you say at least from my observation.

My girl's family side have never been JWS, and all of them have lived interesting, fulfilling lives. No only that, but they put their mind to work and have even been able to leave "Trusts" to all their children. My girl was left with a Trust of several million dollars. She never will have to work to care for herself, yet she went to college and has three degrees because she wants to learn about the world, she is involved several organizations that help children who were born with some defect or have cancer. She has traveled all over the world.

All her relatives who are past 80 look like they are late 40s or early 50s. They don't worry about the end coming, and I think that the JW's preoccupation with Armageddon has a lot to do with acquiring an unhealthy physical and mental makeup that tears at a person's life span.

The JWs on my side of the family who are in their 40s look like they are in their 70s. When I talk with them they have nothing to talk about because they know very little about the world we live in or life in general.

All they take about is the New Order this and the New Order that.

The ones that have woken up have nothing but regrets and are trying to catch up on life.

I always believe that once you become aware of TTATT, and if you are young enough to live a life, ---- LEAVE IMMEDIATLY--- CUT OF ALL WT FRIENDS, START A NEW LIFE, and even if it means losing family, because if you stay for the sake of family who is willing to leave you at a moments notice if don't follow the WT agenda, then it's obvious that that kind of family is not worth staying.

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How do you find reddit

by joe134cd in

just curious but how do the people off this forum find reddit.

for myself i find reddit to be sadly lacking in the jw world.

i just don't find the depth there e.g one sentence replies, trying to be funny.

pistolpete

LongHairGal

However, I find myself reading a few once in a while and I’m really shocked at how many young JWs are at risk of literally being thrown out of their homes because they don’t want the religion.

Hey LHG. I view reddit every day or so and every time there is some kid being kicked out of the house. Some as young as 15, even though it is against the law.

Several times there are adults in their 30s and 40s and telling their story of how they were kicked out of their home because they didn't want to get baptized.

Most of these stories are success stories relating how they were homeless, struggled, went on to become engineers, lawyers, computer scientist, and so on. And the majority of them STILL have not been able to communicate with their parents. Some for over 30 years and the parents still won't talk to them.

These kids kicked out at a young age are now 50 and still the parents shun them.

Only when the parents finally are ready to die and need financial help will they reach out to their shunned children FOR HELP.

Reddit is a great resource for all these kids, because it gives them direction on what to do when kicked out of the home. They get career advice, legal help when kicked out, and a place to talk to individuasl who went through the same thing.

I venture to say in the next few years the membership will pass 100k.

What's interesting is that most kids on reddit don't need advice regarding the Watchtower religion. They don't seek that kind of help. They are already aware at a young age that the Watchtower is just a religious cult. By the time they are 10 or so, they know, and they are in the planning stages of leaving the WT.

That's why it's so different from this site.

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I just turned 75 and here is a giant steaming pile of my "Wisdumb"

by Terry in

jw
friends

birthday wisdom magnum opus.

i was born 2 years after the end of wwii.. everything was in black and white.. harry truman was president.. mahatma gandhi was the spiritual leader of india.. .

by the time i was 5, a new-fangled invention called television.

pistolpete

Happy birthday Terry.

I wonder what kind of changes I will see by the time I turn 75????

I'm 31

Perhaps the live-span will increase by a couple of hundred years and I live to be 275.

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CDC Admits 40% of Covid Hospitalizations Are ‘Non-Covid Patients’

by pistolpete in

cdc director, rochelle walensky said on fox news on sunday that "up to 40 percent" of patients had been admitted to hospitals with another medical emergency but had been later detected as having covid.. when asked by fox news anchor bret baier if there was a breakdown of how many of the 836,000 deaths in the u.s. were "from covid" or "with covid," walensky gave a non-committal answer.. it’s possible that 80% of covid deaths were not actually deaths as a result of covid but the result of car accident, gun shot, accident, obesity, heart problems, etc.. the reason why hospitals were reporting all admissions as covid was because they were getting paid by medicare for every covid patient, every person on a respirator, and so on.. finally even cnn is admitting that world wide covid deaths may be as low as 20% world wide, mostly elderly and those with medical problems, but admitted that it's difficult for the rest of the world to admit that it was all a con.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfpru58s1dg.

pistolpete

CDC Director, Rochelle Walensky said on Fox News on Sunday that "up to 40 percent" of patients had been admitted to hospitals with another medical emergency but had been later detected as having COVID.

When asked by Fox News anchor Bret Baier if there was a breakdown of how many of the 836,000 deaths in the U.S. were "from COVID" or "with COVID," Walensky gave a non-committal answer.

It’s possible that 80% of Covid deaths were not actually deaths as a result of Covid but the result of car accident, gun shot, accident, obesity, heart problems, etc.

The reason why hospitals were reporting all admissions as Covid was because they were getting paid by medicare for every covid patient, every person on a respirator, and so on.

Finally even CNN is admitting that World wide Covid Deaths may be as low as 20% world wide, mostly elderly and those with medical problems, but admitted that it's difficult for the rest of the world to admit that it was all a con.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfpRu58s1Dg

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MY GOSPEL

by pistolpete in

has anyone ever read the new testament- critically- and not theologically?

by theologically i mean not reading the bible with the intention of understanding the nature of god and religious truth.

but instead, reading the bible by analyzing only the facts of what is written, in an unbiased frame of mind to pull out what is actually happening in the written stories.. first of all, if you were to read the nt in chronological order, paul’s 7 authentic letters would come before the gospels of matthew, mark, luke, and john.

pistolpete

Jeffro
All 4 of the ‘gospels’ are anonymous, and the names given to them are later traditions only.
The gradual development of the stories about Jesus, several decades after the supposed events

This is an important Truth with Massive implications that your average Christian doesn’t understand, but bible scholars whose career is to take apart Historical Data understand very well.

For the average Christian, it makes perfect sense to read the New Testament in its current order of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. This introduces the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus, and then the very next book of Acts gives us the early history of Christianity and ends with Paul. It all makes perfect sense-UNLESS THE ONE READING IT IS A CERTIFIED HISTORIAN IN BIBLE STUDIES.

Historians read the New Testament in chronological order by date written. In the last 150 years of studying the New Testament in the order they were written, a different picture emerges, one with far reaching implications. Historians usually follow a set of rules that focuses on a precise set of questions.

Which is the oldest bible book?

How was the information passed along?

Was it an eyewitness who wrote the Gospels, was he actually there to witness Jesus walking on water, did he witness the conversation Jesus had with Satan on top of the mountain, did he actually witness the three resurrections, or was it just “HEARSAY?”

In other words were some of the stories in the Gospels just rumors by None-eyewitnesses, that were passed along year after year, decade after decade?

How were these stories found in the 4 Gospels we have today, passed along, edited?

Were the stories “Embellished?

What Theological motivations were operating when these stories were written down?

The story about the resurrection of Jesus it tied up with “The empty tomb.” What happened to the body of Jesus?

I will consider this in later posts.

Much of this information is the result of reading many books by different bible scholars. The more you read what historians say about the matter, the more pieces of information you have available which allows you to put together a better picture of what really happened.

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Can you get disfellowship for kissing a person of the same sex?

by pistolpete in

i found this on exjwreddit.

a pimo elder is in the middle of an event where a former co allegedly kissed a brother from another hall.. the co denied it so the other elders are frustrated because they can't have a judicial meeting.

if true, can he be disfellowshipped?

pistolpete

So I guess it depends on the elder body serving in the particular congregation. Some elders are radical and some aren't.

In order to avoid such problems where they scrutinized every minute (very small, tiny, infinitesimal, insignificant) part of your life, it would be better to leave such and environment, and find an other environment where you can live your life in peace without so much drama, which is not good for your health.

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Can you get disfellowship for kissing a person of the same sex?

by pistolpete in

i found this on exjwreddit.

a pimo elder is in the middle of an event where a former co allegedly kissed a brother from another hall.. the co denied it so the other elders are frustrated because they can't have a judicial meeting.

if true, can he be disfellowshipped?

pistolpete

I found this on exjwreddit. A pimo elder is in the middle of an event where a former CO allegedly kissed a brother from another hall.

The CO denied it so the other elders are frustrated because they can't have a judicial meeting.

If true, can he be disfellowshipped?

I think the best thing for anybody still in the organization to avoid headaches and trouble is don't associate with the members. Better yet, get out completely. Your life will be better.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ryh649/feeling_bad_after_elders_meeting/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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MY GOSPEL

by pistolpete in

has anyone ever read the new testament- critically- and not theologically?

by theologically i mean not reading the bible with the intention of understanding the nature of god and religious truth.

but instead, reading the bible by analyzing only the facts of what is written, in an unbiased frame of mind to pull out what is actually happening in the written stories.. first of all, if you were to read the nt in chronological order, paul’s 7 authentic letters would come before the gospels of matthew, mark, luke, and john.

pistolpete

EdenOne

Also, consider the fact that Mark doesn't seem to know anything about a resurrection story ... in fact, this was so shocking and embarrassing that some scribes took it up upon themselves to add a spurious "short conclusion" and a "long conclusion" to Mark, in order to at least make it seem that Mark knew something about it.

Exactly EdenOne. In fact this brings us to where the idea of the resurrection of Jesus and how it was introduced in the other Gospels.

Hint; it had to do with the missing body of Jesus. It was gone from the grave, so where did it go?

I will post this idea later in another post regarding; "What happen to the body of Jesus?"

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Can Jehovah's Witnesses explain the overlapping generation?

by pistolpete in

i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.

how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.

i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.

pistolpete

I found this interesting topic on the current views among JWs regarding the Overlapping generation.

The posts are hilarious

How do most Jehovah's Witnesses explain the Overlapping Generation?

I've asked a couple of jws to explain the Overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.

Either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.

Either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time Fred Franz died. Meaning that most won't be around to see the END. Unless you are one year old, you won't see the end. 😩

Or is it possible they haven't sat down to reflect and calculated the extension in time that has been created by this Overlapping generation idea.

If I was a JW and believed with all my heart that the end was close, and that I shouldn't go to College, that I should refuse a blood transfusion even if it meant my life, report all sins to elders, etc. And NEW LIGHT told me that the END has been extended another 80 years---------I would just walk out without saying anything to anyone and live my life the way I wanted to.

Why do they STAY if they have just been told by the GB that the end has been extended another 80 years??

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/rtpzr9/how_do_most_jehovahs_witnesses_explain_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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MY GOSPEL

by pistolpete in

has anyone ever read the new testament- critically- and not theologically?

by theologically i mean not reading the bible with the intention of understanding the nature of god and religious truth.

but instead, reading the bible by analyzing only the facts of what is written, in an unbiased frame of mind to pull out what is actually happening in the written stories.. first of all, if you were to read the nt in chronological order, paul’s 7 authentic letters would come before the gospels of matthew, mark, luke, and john.

pistolpete

Here is something else to consider. The Gospel of Mark was the first written gospel, not Matthew.

Luke was written several decades after Matthew, perhaps at the end of the first century. And John was written much later.

That being the case the Gospel of Mark was the cleanest of them all. By this I mean no extra embellishments.

A good example of this is the Gospel of Mark did not have the story of Jesus's birth and the three wise men or whatever you want to call them. Mark also didn't have the killing of all the babies, or the young Jesus teaching older men story.

Reason being is because these stories had not been "Created" YET to embellish the life of Jesus. So the stories were not in circulation when the Gospel of Mark was written. Meaning that the author of Mark had not heard of such stories. Those stories came years later. Remember the author of the Gospel of Mark was not an EYE WITNESS.