Posts by pistolpete

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JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them

by Anony Mous in

so a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.

if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.

now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.

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Regardless of the level of proof that a tomb was found empty, the answer cannot be "It was supernatural powers," until supernatural powers are proven first.

This is really the basic, central, or critical point of proving ANYTHING related to the "Story" of Jesus.

The Central Feature is not really about Jesus or his resurrection, but instead it's about a Supreme Being, aka Jehovah who intervene by resurrecting a man named Jesus, and by this means is going to save every single human who has ever lived on the planet, approx 100 billion people have lived and died on the planet earth.

If he plans to have them resurrected to heaven, then we have to ask why? Why not create them in heaven in the first place.

If resurrected on earth, why did some All Knowing, all Powerful, God of love tolerate so much suffering and pain on billions of innocent children, mothers, fathers and even the trillions of innocent animals------FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS and continuing.

This is not a "Picture" of an All Knowing, All Powerful God of Love.

It is a picture of man made stories to quell the reality of death in the absence of a Loving and just Supreme Being.

An All Powerful God with Supernatural Powers HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN.

On the other hand there are MANY Unproven stories of many Powerful Gods like Zeus, God of the sky, lightning, thunder, law, order, justice, King of the Gods and the “Father of Gods and men”. and so many others with different supernatural powers like Atlas, Chaos, Eros, Pan, etc.

The idea of a sacrifice needed to appease Some powerful deity was a common belief of ancient people.

Jehovah was just another deity that required the sacrifice of animals and humans to appease him. He loved the smell of blood.

But thankfully, we are slowly coming out of such ignorance.I think in another few hundreds years, humankind will grow out of it.

Genesis 8

And Noah built an altar to the Lord and took of every clean [four-footed] animal and of every clean fowl or bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

21 When the Lord smelled the PLEASING ODOR [a scent of satisfaction to His heart],

ERVThe Lord smelled these sacrifices, AND IT PLEASED HIM

And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord and said, If You will indeed give the Ammonites into my hand, Then whatever or whoever comes forth from the doors of my house to meet me when I return in peace from the Ammonites, it shall be the Lord’s, and I will offer it or him up as a burnt offering. ...Then Jephthah came to Mizpah to his home, and behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances! And she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.

35 And when he saw her, he rent his clothes and said, Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low, and you are the cause of great trouble to me; for I have opened my mouth [in a vow] to the Lord, and I cannot take it back.....At the end of two months she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed

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COVID Vaccine and JW's

by FedUpJW in

while reading some of the news this afternoon i came across an article titled the lies about vaccine efficacy are exposed, so scotland stops publishing data, that opened with this statement:.

if the truth hurts your narrative, you must censor it.

but what if your own information harms your own narrative?

pistolpete

This Pandemic was so serious and dangerous;

That you had to get tested to see if you had it.

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When this is over...

by joey jojo in

jw
friends

what will the world be like once this pandemic is over?

the world has been through this before, in the form of the bubonic plague and it left changes to life still felt today, especially in regards to the economic system.

so many people dying meant a smaller working class that meant their skills and labour was suddenly more valuable which in turn raised wages.

pistolpete

The pandemic the lesser evil. In two years 5,903,219 people have died World wide.

That's 2,951,609 per year IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.

The ones that died were elderly, those medically compromised, and the obese.

More people have died of suicide, riots, crime, alcoholism, drug addiction, etc.

Many Countries have switched over to tyranny like Australia. Now Canada is fighting to resist a dictator from taking over. The USA is also fighting to keep Tyranny from taking over.

The Watchtower for the first time stopped all door to door preaching and closed all Kingdom halls world wide. It is the beginning of the end for the organization.

Woke-ism and gender identity has taken over and the cancel culture has taken hold of most people.

The new USA President wants a Nuclear war with Russia and is de stabilizing America.

Even people who have never been Jehovah's Witnesses or have had any ties to the Watchtower's end of days ideas, are getting this deep feeling in their gut, that this might be the early beginning of another extinction event leaving only a few humans to start over again. Unfortunatly a small group of men who have taken power will be the ones responsible for this catastrophic event

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

pistolpete

Chasing down every last channel & social media account that's spreading lies is a monumental task but I'm damned well going to do it if it takes yrs.

How old is Loyd? Like 40 something.

So he is going to spend the last 30 years of his life maybe a little more or maybe less---chasing down every exjw. There's over 71,000 exjw on reddit and only about 700 like him. The rest have had it with him.

So 71,000 divided by 35 years = 2,028

Loyd has to catch 5 exjw EVERY DAY, take them to court EVERY DAY, WIN THE COURT CASE EVERY DAY, FOR THE NEXT 35 YEARS.

Oh, I forgot the other exjws on YouTube, Instagram, and even the Governing Body that is probably laughing their ass off at Loyd.😂😂

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Marc O'Donell's statement: Lloyd and the conflict of Interest

by Diogenesister in

as expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.

you can read it here:.

public statement of mark o’donnell.

pistolpete

But Germany is like one of us! A civilized, modern, democratic county that is supposed to be ahead of the curve on questions like these.

Klaus Schwab is German and is the Founder of the World Economic Forum. This man said in his book that humanity is nothing more than "useless eaters."

He has said that there needs to be a culling of humanity and remove those of lesser value. He still holds the idea of a superior race. And he feel that most of humanity are just animals to be culled and enslaved. And this man is the one in charge of the World Economic Forum. He wants one Big Government to dictate the the entire world what is moral and what is not. Who gets to live and who doesn't.

Had I still been a JW, I would have welcomed such news as further proof of this system’s wickedness and in desperate need of God’s intervention. No longer a believer, I am left with this feeling of distress of how bad humans are with no end in sight.

The witnesses had one thing right, the world we live in is wicked to the max. The thing they had wrong was that someone was going to rescue us. Like Carl Sagen said;

"No one is coming to rescue us"

This is what evolution is all about.

The path to modern humans is a massive experiment in failures and trial and error.
At least six times almost all of live on earth was wiped out in mass extinctions. 99.9% of all the species that ever lived have gone extinct. The ancestors of humans (in fact all mammals) only thrived because a meteor wiped out the dinosaurs leaving a niche for them to thrive.
Consider that virtually every creature that has ever lived - including 200,000 years of modern humans who suffered and grieved just like us - died of starvation, disease, exposure, parasites, infection or predation.
The history of life seems perfectly designed to maximise suffering and waste.
Does this sound anything like a plan of an intelligent - let alone loving – creator?
No other words describe how life is perfectly designed to MAXIMIZE suffering.

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Anthony Morris wants to help inactive ones return to Jehovah

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

jw broadcasting.

news and announcements.

2021 governing body update #10. .

pistolpete

One Circuit Overseer in the United States reported that 76 individuals in his circuit have been re-activated.

And 40,000 have become PIMO

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

pistolpete

Toblerone5
They become even more endoctrinated ,more blind, there devotion is bigger ect...I

just a kid from flint----itsaMeChristiana---seems to want to work in Thailand and have loyd visit her.

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JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them

by Anony Mous in

so a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.

if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.

now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.

pistolpete

Question is why they rejected them, especially since the Dead Sea Scrolls indicates those books were very much in circulation amongst Christians ca 100BC and have to date existed amongst Ethiopian Churches (one of the earliest churches still in existence)

The men running the WT, (Governing Body, and perhaps others) are not so much interested in finding out what the truth is, but instead more inclined in CREATING THEIR OWN TRUTH.

A good example of this is their latest teaching regarding "THEIR IDEA" of how the resurrection is going to proceed.

A gay person that dies gay will be resurrected gay and little by little the gay will be removed depending on his progress in obedience.

There is no biblical information or other ancient historical references alluding that the resurrection will proceed in such a way.

Everyone has a certain way of extrapolating information from the past, and this is how these men work in dispensing their theological views upon their members.

The members love their ideas and continue to support the information they come up with.

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Ukraine and Armageddon

by jhine in

i'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and guess that the watchtower is having a wonderful time over the whole ukraine situation.

is the whole " end of times " thing being pushed again to bring dissidents back into line .

they must be seeing as a gift from above .

pistolpete

LongHairGal

I don’t know if I can only credit my non-JW upbringing but I’m glad I had the strength of character to ignore all this.

You did good LongHairGal 👍

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Ukraine and Armageddon

by jhine in

i'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and guess that the watchtower is having a wonderful time over the whole ukraine situation.

is the whole " end of times " thing being pushed again to bring dissidents back into line .

they must be seeing as a gift from above .

pistolpete

The reason he gets a pathetically low amount from SS was because he worked part-time! In order to get a decent benefit from SS a person needs to work full-time for decades.

LongHairGal

What I have found out is that if a person works full time for 35 years and a good salary, he can collect maximum amount of $4,194 a month or $50,328 a year, if you wait till 70 to collect. On top of this once you hit 65 years of age, you get free Medicare to pay for health if you get the right plan. And if you are smart and have you home paid off by the time you retire, you can life a very comfortable life till it's over.

Even if you don't get the highest salary, you can still do good just with social security alone, if you work full time. I personally think that is a pretty good deal considering that many Countries don't have anything like Social Security.

And I know single persons that are living life like kings just on social security alone. I'm not a bible believer but even that book gave sound advice that JWs should of taken to heart instead of listening to 8 old fools in New York

(Proverbs 6:6-8) . . .Go to the ant, you lazy one; see its ways and become wise. 7 Although it has no commander, officer or ruler, 8 it prepares its food even in the summer; it has gathered its food supplies even in the harvest.

Pioneering was such a waste of time and I feel sorry for all those jws that just weren't smart enough to figure it out.