if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.
should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.
what on earth will the husband think then?
Vienne what if your decision to take something meant he would get it into him as well? And he didn’t want that spike protein in him?
He has a right to say he definitely doesn’t want the spike protein in him. So yes you can have if you want but that would end the marriage. That is your choice what would you decide to do?
even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.
they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.
i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..
Yes my old congregation almost all the ones my age and the age of my siblings slowly faded when they left school. Some got got baptised most didn’t. Now most of us in 40s or 50s some are having social interactions with the congregation members again.
The congregation does love bomb these ones thinking they may be interested in coming back but we obviously are not.
The ideal would be to milk this for a long time.
if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.
should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.
what on earth will the husband think then?
Great teacher I would say in a marriage the spouse does have a right to talk about things that will affect both of them.
We know for sure that these jabs did shed the harmful substances to a partner sleeping in the same bed. Spike protein shedding is confirmed now.
That husband had a right to say I don’t want that spike protein in me. He could have said we could stay married but not live as husband and wife. But I think he was well within his rights to give her a choice to get jabbed which would end the marriage or stay fully unvaccinated and go against Jehovahs direction stay married.
She made her choice putting the GB direction first which meant she chose to end her marriage
for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.
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from the february 2024 watchtower .
They swan about staying in fancy hotels flying first class wearing Rolex. Fine dinning and it all comes out of donations.
Does anyone else remember Tony Morris making a jab at other members of the GB saying they were going on too many holidays? That really did happen if anyone can find the clip I’d love to see it again, I know Lloyd did a video about it.
This is not just the GB but applies to all the top dogs. Branch visits from one of the top dogs were like having royalty come to stay, then they would take a few day’s travel in nice hotels and that part was supposed to be confidential but some of us got to hear about it.
if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.
but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?
it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.
Yes he actually said those things.
The entire unedited leaked AGM is on YouTube and the edited versions will be on broadcasting December part 2.
The answer to official JW doctrine now who will be killed at Armageddon is we don’t know.
I think they hope JDubs will still think of the old light that only baptised ones will not be killed. If they openly say that lots of other good people will not be killed then it will open a can of worms.
They always used to push baptism for young ones or you won’t survive. Basically saying if you don’t get baptised Jehovah will kill you. These days there are many brought up as witnesses who get to 20’s still not baptised. The parents have seen too many young ones have to be shunned so they are inclined to advise their kids not get baptised.
This new light in effect is saying that you don’t have to be baptised for Jehovah not to kill you.
It’s all nonsense anyway but just sticking to official doctrine I can see less young ones getting baptised from now on. 2023 AGM changes everything.
if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.
but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?
it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.
November Broadcast showed a couple of the more boring talks with no new light at all.
This means that rank and file still have not heard the new light unless they hear whispers from what has been leaked.
until the new light gets released the official old light is that all unbaptised persons alive on earth at Armageddon will be killed. So all JWs are hoping that unbaptised loved ones will die before Jehovah kills them. If they die before, the old light is they will be resurrected so let’s hope they die before. As absurd as that sounds that is what JW official doctrine is until they release the new light.
Jeff Jackson actually mocks this teaching and very patronisingly give the impression you are so stupid to believe this doctrine. I’d have to agree with him on that one but Jeff, your 8 million have been told to believe that and until you release that talk they will still believe this!
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
What are realistic predictions for Lloyd in a year or two’s time?
Can he survive on the income from his channel if it keep dropping so much and he keeps his word that he will keep his legal case going against the mag7?
you still have to be fully vaccinated to attend any theocratic schools.
elders and ministerial servants have their kingdom ministry school every year, the cobe of every congregation has to check that everyone is fully vaccinated.
after the school everyone will ask any bothers who were not there why not?
Now so many are questioning the direction to remain fully vaccinated some are deciding not to keep following direction and stop getting the latest boosters. This means after six months they are no longer fully vaccinated.
If they choose not to follow direction in this one thing then they also start to question direction in other things. This starts then on the path to question everything. Once they are on this path they start to develop critical thinking and read the Bible through new lenses.
This is the stage they wonder is it worth leaving and considering everything some choose to physically stay, and this is where JW Lite is a great option.
this morning i decided to log into the local cong meeting on zoom, during the public talk the speaker likened the covid vx to jesus ransom sacrifice, saying that those who didn't avail of the vx, the 'anti vaxxers', are just like people who refuse to put faith in jesus.. i felt sick, knowing my unvxed but active jw parents were sitting there, i logged off immediately.
surely such talk is pure blasphemy or am i just over reacting?!.
i appreciate your thoughts, it will hopefully help me to approach my jw family with facts and logic, i'm praying they wake up fully and 'get out of her', i know they have reservations that's why they refused the vx..
King how could a few elders be fully unvaxed and still be elders? There was a letter saying their qualifications as elders would be called into question with the CO?
Also did they lie when they went to Kingdom ministry school last year? All elders were asked and had to confirm they were fully vaccinated!
if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.
but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?
it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.
The entire AGM 2023 was leaked on YouTube.
what will be interesting is to see how they may edit it for the broadcasts as it’s being released in multiple parts and for some reason out of order.
