Posts by jehovaxx

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Covid Vx likened to Jesus ransom

by KerryKing in

this morning i decided to log into the local cong meeting on zoom, during the public talk the speaker likened the covid vx to jesus ransom sacrifice, saying that those who didn't avail of the vx, the 'anti vaxxers', are just like people who refuse to put faith in jesus.. i felt sick, knowing my unvxed but active jw parents were sitting there, i logged off immediately.

surely such talk is pure blasphemy or am i just over reacting?!.

i appreciate your thoughts, it will hopefully help me to approach my jw family with facts and logic, i'm praying they wake up fully and 'get out of her', i know they have reservations that's why they refused the vx..

jehovaxx

When it comes to following the word of the GB I don’t think anywhere is more lenient. The letter to all congregations said that every coordinator of bodies of Elders had to confirm that all appointed brothers were fully vaccinated.

I don’t think there were many congregations if any, who went against this direction from the GB.

I hear there were many elders who did not keep up with all the boosters and answered honestly that they were not fully vaccinated. Maybe some lied but I doubt it.

But all the appointed brothers who were not fully vaxed were NOT allowed to go to the in person Kingdom ministry school last year.

The next kingdom ministry school will be very interesting to see if they do a U turn on that direction. But as it stands the direction is still only fully vaccinated can go to any theocratic schools or volunteering for any project or to work at the branch.

whatever happens at the next KM school if they do a U turn or not, it will be what everyone is talking about as many brothers were not allowed to go last year as they made the wise decision not to get fully vaccinated.

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JWLITE

by Teddnzo in

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friends

even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

jehovaxx

There are those who used to be very zealous JWs who have slowed down to JWlite and then there are those who inform the elders they have become inactive this is a soft fade. From now on you just don’t give a thumbs up for a few months which is all you need to do to remain active.

Once you become inactive and stop attending you can inform the elders you are thinking of coming back then you get love bombed and treated so well. Why do this? Because having a vague hope in a solution to the worlds woes is better than no hope. Because everyone needs something to believe in. This is the dividend you keep getting paid. I have read a few books on this. Many people grow up with nothing, or just a vague idea of some kind of belief their parents had.

At some time of their life they ask the big questions like how did the origin of the universe come about was it design or chance?

I have seen it a few times where usually in mid life or sometimes later someone realises they need something to believe in, call it religion or call it a belief system or whatever. This helps you to be grounded.

So many who leave JWs or any other high control group feel lost, they don’t know where to go or what to believe in.

So the question is asked why invest in JW or other belief systems? Because it grounds you and gives you a sense of purpose and a hope.

I personally have experienced both that sense of being grounded and the sense of being lost. I now have found a middle ground where I don’t believe the JWs but I like the sound of JWlite.

I would like the community aspect of JWlite and all the love bombing when they think you may come back. And Im absolutely honest with the elders or anyone who asks me that Im still not sure if God exists or if the Bible is his word.

So they keep the love bombing and trying to get me to come back even though I grew up in the congregation but I’ve been out for a long time.

This is what I suggest to others now. Don’t leave in a hard exit which means you will be shunned. Just inform the elders you have become inactive. This does not warrant shunning. This is a soft fade. Then after a while you tell them you are possibly thinking of coming back and you get love bombed and all the advantages of being part of the congregation. You can milk this indefinitely

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

jehovaxx

IWant2Know6 hours ago

Foolednomore said:

Why would you invest in Watchtower when you have to continue paying into the investment and have yet to see one dividend? This is your Time,and money, your life. What do you have to show?

But they would say the dividends would be the positive results in their lives whether it would be having given up cigarettes or drugs, or anger control, wife beating, sexual immorality, or even not having an anticipation that there's a solution to the world's woes

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Yes that last one is very important, having a hope in a solution to the worlds woes. Because everyone needs something to believe in. This is the dividend you keep getting paid. I have read a few books on this. Many people grow up with nothing, or just a vague idea of some kind of belief their parents had.

At some time of their life they ask the big questions like how did the origin of the universe come about was it design or chance?

I have seen it a few times where usually in mid life or sometimes later someone realises they need something to believe in, call it religion or call it a belief system or whatever. This helps you to be grounded.

So many who leave JWs or any other high control group feel lost, they don’t know where to go or what to believe in.

So the question is asked why invest in JW or other belief systems? Because it grounds you and gives you a sense of purpose and a hope.

I personally have experienced both that sense of being grounded and the sense of being lost. I now have found a middle ground where I don’t believe the JWs but I like the sound of JWlite.

I would like the community aspect of JWlite and all the love bombing when they think you may come back. And Im absolutely honest with the elders or anyone who asks me that Im still not sure if God exists or if the Bible is his word.

So they keep the love bombing and trying to get me to come back even though I grew up in the congregation but I’ve been out for a long time.

This is what I suggest to others now. Don’t leave in a hard exit which means you will be shunned. Just inform the elders you have become inactive. This does not warrant shunning. This is a soft fade. Then after a while you tell them you are possibly thinking of coming back and you get love bombed and all the advantages of being part of the congregation. You can milk this indefinitely.

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slimboyfat & blondie made news on newshub.com

by LevelThePlayingField in

i know, how do i find this stuff, right?

the article is long, so just do a ctrl-f then type in your name... also jehovahs-witness.com mentioned in this article.

"theocratic warfare" is a contentious theological doctrine of the jehovah's witness (jw) movement in christianity.. .

jehovaxx

Grant Davies gives some guidance when choosing a religion.

"Like any religion, Watchtower may produce fine subjective reasons why they are the only true religion. Like any religion that’s where their credentials end.

If you really must have a religion in your life then choose one without caveats and high control.

Choose one which doesn’t tell you what you should wear at meetings.

Choose one which doesn’t repeatedly ask if you’re doing enough.

Choose one which doesn’t keep changing its mind when it fails.

Choose one which doesn’t tell you what your facial hair should appear like

Choose one which doesn’t wish to prevent your children going to higher education

Choose one which doesn’t tell you as a married couple, what is an acceptable bedroom practice and what isn’t.

Choose one which allows you to watch Harry Potter and the Smurfs if you wish.

Choose one that allows you to openly discuss with other members things which may not appear to correct teachings.

Choose one which isn’t swamped with accusations of multiple child sex abuse cover ups.

Choose one which doesn’t try to tell you who you can and cannot mix with socially.

Choose one which doesn’t tell you which of your family members you can and cannot talk to.

Choose one which doesn’t weigh you down with a permanent feeling of existential dread.

Choose carefully.

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Choose JWLITE where you can be physically in to the extent that you want to be and ignore all those things. Keep your life private and never answer any prying questions from the elders.

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PIMI wife told to go against her husband and take the vaccines?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.

should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.

what on earth will the husband think then?

jehovaxx

Vienne what if your decision to take something meant he would get it into him as well? And he didn’t want that spike protein in him?

He has a right to say he definitely doesn’t want the spike protein in him. So yes you can have if you want but that would end the marriage. That is your choice what would you decide to do?

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JWLITE

by Teddnzo in

jw
friends

even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

jehovaxx

Yes my old congregation almost all the ones my age and the age of my siblings slowly faded when they left school. Some got got baptised most didn’t. Now most of us in 40s or 50s some are having social interactions with the congregation members again.

The congregation does love bomb these ones thinking they may be interested in coming back but we obviously are not.

The ideal would be to milk this for a long time.

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PIMI wife told to go against her husband and take the vaccines?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.

should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.

what on earth will the husband think then?

jehovaxx

Great teacher I would say in a marriage the spouse does have a right to talk about things that will affect both of them.

We know for sure that these jabs did shed the harmful substances to a partner sleeping in the same bed. Spike protein shedding is confirmed now.

That husband had a right to say I don’t want that spike protein in me. He could have said we could stay married but not live as husband and wife. But I think he was well within his rights to give her a choice to get jabbed which would end the marriage or stay fully unvaccinated and go against Jehovahs direction stay married.

She made her choice putting the GB direction first which meant she chose to end her marriage

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The FDS Photoshop

by Vanderhoven7 in

for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.

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from the february 2024 watchtower .

jehovaxx

They swan about staying in fancy hotels flying first class wearing Rolex. Fine dinning and it all comes out of donations.

Does anyone else remember Tony Morris making a jab at other members of the GB saying they were going on too many holidays? That really did happen if anyone can find the clip I’d love to see it again, I know Lloyd did a video about it.

This is not just the GB but applies to all the top dogs. Branch visits from one of the top dogs were like having royalty come to stay, then they would take a few day’s travel in nice hotels and that part was supposed to be confidential but some of us got to hear about it.

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Who will be killed at Armageddon?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

jehovaxx

Yes he actually said those things.

The entire unedited leaked AGM is on YouTube and the edited versions will be on broadcasting December part 2.

The answer to official JW doctrine now who will be killed at Armageddon is we don’t know.

I think they hope JDubs will still think of the old light that only baptised ones will not be killed. If they openly say that lots of other good people will not be killed then it will open a can of worms.

They always used to push baptism for young ones or you won’t survive. Basically saying if you don’t get baptised Jehovah will kill you. These days there are many brought up as witnesses who get to 20’s still not baptised. The parents have seen too many young ones have to be shunned so they are inclined to advise their kids not get baptised.

This new light in effect is saying that you don’t have to be baptised for Jehovah not to kill you.

It’s all nonsense anyway but just sticking to official doctrine I can see less young ones getting baptised from now on. 2023 AGM changes everything.

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Who will be killed at Armageddon?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

jehovaxx

November Broadcast showed a couple of the more boring talks with no new light at all.

This means that rank and file still have not heard the new light unless they hear whispers from what has been leaked.

until the new light gets released the official old light is that all unbaptised persons alive on earth at Armageddon will be killed. So all JWs are hoping that unbaptised loved ones will die before Jehovah kills them. If they die before, the old light is they will be resurrected so let’s hope they die before. As absurd as that sounds that is what JW official doctrine is until they release the new light.

Jeff Jackson actually mocks this teaching and very patronisingly give the impression you are so stupid to believe this doctrine. I’d have to agree with him on that one but Jeff, your 8 million have been told to believe that and until you release that talk they will still believe this!