As well as long term DF’ed getting called on by local Elders wherever they live, they should be getting contacted by any friends or family.
Maybe friends or family will contact local congregations where the long term DFed ones now live?
there are no serious consequences for doubting the gb.
there are no consequences for going against the direction.
we can now celebrate anything.. what will happen if you take blood, celebrate xmas and birthdays ect?.
As well as long term DF’ed getting called on by local Elders wherever they live, they should be getting contacted by any friends or family.
Maybe friends or family will contact local congregations where the long term DFed ones now live?
there are no serious consequences for doubting the gb.
there are no consequences for going against the direction.
we can now celebrate anything.. what will happen if you take blood, celebrate xmas and birthdays ect?.
Road to nowhere you don’t understand the huge U turn this new light brings.
It’s very hard to get DF’ed in the first place. It will only happen if the person actually says they are not sorry. If they say they are sorry that is enough. If elders ever think someone should be DF’ed there is now an appeals process where the person can say they are sorry and that is enough they will not be DF’ed.
If the person is DF’ed at all (extremely unlikely) it’s only for 90days and the elders will chase them begging them to be reinstated, all they have to do is say yes they are sorry and ok they will let the Elders reinstate them but don’t expect them to come to many meetings in person as they prefer zoom.
It’s totally switched to the opposite of the person begging the elders and having to jump through hoops to get reinstated.
Now the elders chase all DF’ed ones and beg them to agree to be reinstated. The elders have to jump through hoops now with this U turn.
All the long term DF’ed ones will be contacted every six months and they can basically say ok I Will agree to be reinstated if you first answer these questions and then come up with some very difficult questions every six months.
the direction is that elders contact ALL DF’ed ones in their territory every six months.
All elders have had their meeting by now going over the new direction. At my elders meeting we went over all DF’ed ones in our territory. This includes some names none of us have ever heard of. We are all going to be very busy now contacting them all every six months.
Some have moved into our territory and got called on by some publishers and they told them they used to be a JW but got DF’ed.
wt 2013 11/15 p. 20. at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. wt feb 2017.
"the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
The push will be that Jehovah understands how difficult life has become in the critical last days.
this is why everything is becoming easier
there's been a lot of discussion about the changes in the org.
you might think all this would shake things up, especially for the older or super dedicated jws.
but remember when gb decided all the khs and the bank accounts needed to be transferred/managed from the top?
Let me guess: the sister who leaps out of the cake will have to be appropriately dressed? 🤔
Well if what Redsetter is saying has any truth to it then JWs will become a sex cult.
Red is saying they will say oral and anal sex is permitted 😭
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there are no serious consequences for doubting the gb.
there are no consequences for going against the direction.
we can now celebrate anything.. what will happen if you take blood, celebrate xmas and birthdays ect?.
there are no serious consequences for doubting the GB.
There are no consequences for going against the direction. We can now celebrate anything.
what will happen if you take blood, celebrate Xmas and birthdays ect?
Elders will call round and ask if you are sorry if you say yes nothing will happen if you say no you could be DF’ed for 90 days
thats it, those are the only consequences of going against the direction. Worst could happen is DF’ed for 90days but no more shunning during those 90 days as families now talk to DF,ed ones.
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
Tonus JWlite you still go to the BBQs and get invited to the camping trips ect.
I also think the meetings and ministry zoom or in person are a good social club
but if you don’t want to have these then yes POMO is your best bet
so, just got off a very emotional, but positive call with my father.. this past weekend, he wanted to give me a call, but i was out of town at a wedding, so he said he'd call me later in the week.. he texted me the governing body update video with the recent changes and said, "i thought you might be interested in some of the changes that were just announced.".
i'm tired of self-censorship, so i decided to reply as truthfully and respectfully as i could.. my reply to him:.
it's interesting.
The direction is all DF’ed ones should be contacted by family or friends.
Some may get contacted by several or even many family and friends.
I wonder if JW families are all talking about who is going to contact the DF’ed family members?
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
Yes the show is over. The JW cult is dead.
what is in place is a new JW lite. It’s a completely different thing altogether.
the difference is night and day.
I love this new one better because anything goes. The worst thing that could happen is that you get DF’ed for 90 days but family will not shun you and it almost certainly won’t come to 90 days DF’ed anyway.
It really is anything goes.
There is also less pressure on anyone who expresses doubts. Many seem to be asking questions about why all the changes and how could the GB have been wrong about all these things upto now?
there are no consequences for doubting the GB.
There are no consequences for going against the direction. We can now celebrate anything.
what will happen if you take blood, celebrate Xmas and birthdays ect?
Elders will call round and ask if you are sorry if you say yes nothing will happen if you say no you could be DF’ed for 90 days
thats it
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
One thing is for sure, the JW world has become a lot more interesting even exciting place for everyone. Those physically out are wishing they were back in to be a part of it all😭
there is a lot of speculation about future things being permitted but really these latest changes kind of permit everything with only a worst case scenario a 90 ban (rest) and you are begged to come back.but most times it won’t even come to that if you say you are sorry
Smoking, drugs rock and roll. Yes sex, partying watching unsuitable entertainment it’s all gone into light touch category.
Light touch means maybe warning and maybe a visit if young person then parents just have to say they have it in hand. (Exact words in the new direction)
Imagine Elder 1 “so they slept together at the party?”
Parents “well they were drunk and high and apparently it was only a blow job but they can’t really remember, maybe a hand job”
Elder 1 “oh that reminds me I have to ask you have you got it in hand” if so nothing will happen
🤣
all seems a light touch approach. Every effort will be made for someone to not be DF’ed. if they say sorry that is enough.
In the unusual case where worst case scenario someone is DFed it’s only for 90days and if they go to meetings everyone will still greet them anyway.
I suspect they wouldn’t need to go to meetings much if at all and have a rest from it during that 90days anyway.
The direction just basically says beg them to agree to be reinstated after the 90 days nothing about going to meetings during that 90days
the DF’ed person doesn’t even need to submit a written request - the elders chase after him/her after only 3 months and, it sounds like, in only the rarest of occasions would extend the DF period for longer.
now they suddenly examine the context of these scriptures and have come to the conclusion that it only applies to apostates and those who continue in serious sin???????.
there are families torn apart by their shunning policies and some have said the gb are wrong and these scriptures only apply to those carrying on in serious sin?
but no for the last several decades families have been ripped apart for lifelong shunning just because some don’t want to be jws anymore.. the lawsuits that are to come will not make up for life long relationships being ruined.
all seems a light touch approach. Every effort will be made for someone to not be DF’ed. if they say sorry that is enough.
In the unusual case where worst case scenario someone is DFed it’s only for 90days and if they go to meetings everyone will still greet them anyway.
I suspect they wouldn’t need to go to meetings much if at all and have a rest from it during that 90days anyway.
The direction just basically says beg them to agree to be reinstated after the 90 days nothing about going to meetings during that 90days
the DF’ed person doesn’t even need to submit a written request - the elders chase after him/her after only 3 months and, it sounds like, in only the rarest of occasions would extend the DF period for longer.