These days the mention of Ray Franz gets them all telling you chinese whispers.
Three dubs discussing him on field circus a few years ago described him as 'a violent man, started up his own religion, is a big believer in the trinity, has made himself a fortune - he left bethel for the money'.
I had no idea who he was but had the wrong impression that he was Fred Franz brother who left bethel of his own accord and caused big trouble for other bethelites ... wrong again! Im actually angry that they make up crap about a decent loving man who would have given you the shirt off his back and was treated like a mongrel dog by those he gave his life for.
The JWs are taught to be scared of apostates, DF and even inactive people so they can protect their BS doctrines and their $$ income.