Done and commented.
Love your comment Cofty, I actually like the typo. The image of the organisation pubically.... hmmmm. eeeeeew.
Posts by jemba
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48CAN EVERYONE DO ME A FAVOUR?
by Mary ini haven't been on here much lately, but i read barb anderson's report on the court case in california the other day.
nice to see the borg finally getting what they deserve.. anyway, the daily mail has done a story about it and at the end you can give your comments.
i think there are a number of 'faithful witlesses' on there who are giving the "thumbs down" to any negative comments about the borg, including mine.
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I'd hate to be a JW going out in service with all the bad press they're getting right now.
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jemba
Interesting Quendi, I will have to catch up on the details of the Sandusky trial.
Even if householders are aware of the big payout to Candace many would rather keep their disgust to themselves so as not to engage the dub in any conversation that may turn religious, Im sure most just want the dub off the doorstep!....
How many come out guns ablazing about blood transfusions or military service, theyd rather tell the JWs to piss off or just not answer the door. Even 'worldly' people realise there is no use arguing with someone in a cult.
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...My Vacation...
by OUTLAW in.
my vacation is over... .
............................ ...outlaw.
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jemba
Wow Outlaw, you have no idea how many times Ive read.... I wish Outlaw was here.
It is so awesome to see you back!!
I seriously missed your humour and pics!!
JWN just became even more exciting.
Jemba
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Ha ha, hilarious.
I like the advertisement... digital atrocities. That whole religion is an atrocity.
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Mental Illness & Suicide In the Organization
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this topic has been discussed before ... i just wanted to put my two cents in.. i will start off by saying that of course mental illness exists outside of the organization.
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jemba
Thanks Zordino. I agree with you.
Welcome Celtic and Koky.
I feel so similar to you Whatnow. Thankyou for this post.
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Mental Illness & Suicide In the Organization
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this topic has been discussed before ... i just wanted to put my two cents in.. i will start off by saying that of course mental illness exists outside of the organization.
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My panic attacks were only at the meetings and field circus for years. It eventually started to happen at work as well.
My depression, anxiety and feelings of panic, even though medicated on the max dose of prozac disappeared almost instantly when I came to this website and found out TTATT.
If I believed in miracles I could attribute it to God, but it is so much simpler than that... I finally gave in to that subconscious prodding that 'something aint right, too many doubts'!
I literally woke up the next day realising I had been living a lie and felt different, over the next few weeks and months I waited to fall back into that darkness but it didnt happen and still hasnt.
Trying to explain this to my dub parents is near impossible and makes me look apostate in their eyes (which I am, lol) ... and thats just blaming the org for my mental illness, so they think Im just having a break (much to their disgust).
I firmly believe now that a lot of the mental illness in the org is that subconscious doubting trying to be heard and constantly pushed back. Also the pressure to conform, not think too much, guilt, fear and not ever being able to measure up is to blame.
Leaving the org may not be an instant fix for many but I think if they find out TTATT they will get well onto the road to healing.
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JWs At My Door Today
by TOTH inso here i sat eating my father's day brunch and the knock at the door startled me.
i peaked and it was a man and teenaged boy in suits.
it was already like ninety degrees outside and they had on suit jackets....jws.
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Great story TOTH.
Poor kid, working in the heat fully dressed when he'd rather be off swimming or watching a movie in the aircon. Maybe thatll be the next child abuse issue they can tackle, making kids go d2d and sitting through stupid sermons when they should be allowed to be kids.
I love thinking about that guy finding the story in the news and thinking oh shite, now the householders have a new argument, hopefully he discussed it with his field circus group too. lol
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Is The "American Dream" is over?
by cantleave inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/the-american-dream-is-now-a-myth-2012-6.
one of the most distressing aspects of the state of the us economy is the decrease in social mobility.. it is much, much harder now than it used to be for americans to improve their circumstances.. in other words, if americans are born poor, they're overwhelmingly likely to stay poor.. similarly, if americans are born rich, they have a much better chance of staying rich than someone born poor or middle class.. no one minds inequality as long as one's station in life is a function of one's own decisions and effort.. when inequality becomes the luck of the draw, however, if becomes much more profoundly unfair.. america's social mobility is now not only one of the lowest in the country's history--it's one of the lowest in the first world.. if that doesn't change, the fundamental promise of america for the past 250 years will disappear.
the country will no longer be a place in which you can control your economic destiny.
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I agree Bizzybee. Also its not what you know but who you know. If you are already accepted around the influential then youre more likely to get one of their cushy jobs.
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For now...all hope has faded
by outsmartthesystem inmy wife asked me if i believe that christ came to power in 1914. sadly this question shows how little she knows even about her own religion as she knows the heart of my problems with the society start with the 607 bc debacle.
obviously no 607 means no 1914. alas....the conversation eventually morphed and it got to the point where i decided to ask her a point blank question.
what would it take to get you to realize that your religion is false?
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When I was in I would push all of those 'iffy' things to the back of my mind. After some time though the cognitive dissonance becomes too heavy and weighs on your subconcious. I believe some 'facing it' has to eventually push through or youll go mad.
In my experience it made me sick, depression and anxiety, it got worse and worse till I faced it. It also helped to be in a cong with people I couldnt stand being around, it makes you not want to go to meetings or field circus, in the end youre just looking for an excuse to leave.
Finding out TTATT is the best guiltfree excuse to leave... ever!!
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Greetings from Candace Conti
by AndersonsInfo incandace asked me to tell you thank you for all your kind expressions of support.
this really means a lot to her.
she wants you to know that she is coping well with all the stress and excitement, even though she's had years of anger and frustration because of being abused for so long, first by the molester, and then by the wt.
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Candace you have done an amazing job of exposing the terrible secret side of abuse in the org.
For so many people who have been abused and had it swept under the carpet by the elders, thankyou thankyou thankyou.
It must have been so hard to come forward, hopefully you have made it easier for others to get their justice too.
I would like to know how you stand in the cong now and how JWs have treated you, Im sure it cant be easy from that side of things either.
Sending you lots of love and positive energy for all your hard work and effort.
Jemba