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  Are JW's a Social Experiment ?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  when a person looks at the sheer volume of watchtower lies, denial of salvation, free labor, false prophecies, misrepresentations, gas-lighting and falsehoods about everything and anything, it makes me wonder if it's one big test to see how gullible people can be.

  there was as social experiment in the 1960's that tested how far people were willing to administer an increasing dose of electric shock if directed to do so by an authority figure.

  shockingly, people were willing to give lethal doses to their neighbors.

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  NotFormer

  In a way it was Rutherford's social experiment. He was always seeing how far he could push people before they resisted, be they WT adherents or government. With government he pushed the freedom of religion envelope too far i.e he FAFOed. He got to spend some time in prison and his health suffered from then on.

  As to people, he squeezed the Bible students to the point where everyone who would resist had gone. The Bethel culture was made up of company men who would follow any order.

  What was that diary/memoir of a new boy? The bit where a guy jumped off a building and the guy in charge didn't care, just was grateful that the "bastard" hadn't done it on the street side. I imagine people like that were perfectly capable of administering the lethal level if ordered.
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  The Desperate End--Ex-JW FIlm

  by blondie in

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  https://filmdaily.co/indie-film/from-survival-to-cinema-how-robin-a-townsend-turned-trauma-into-power-through-film/ .

  robin a. townsend is not just a filmmaker.

  he is a force of reclamation.

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  NotFormer

  Is this a new release? If so, it's interesting that WT announces that they have changed the word, just in time for this movie.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  NotFormer

  ElderBerry: "if he stayed a JW even if he was agnostic then he would have let a text book life. Relatively happy family clean and together. Good friends and social life. Real friends that will be there for him"

  So he can still be a hypocrite; just a more socially acceptable hypocrite? Still peddling that JW Lite nonsense, Elderberry? As I've said before: Get out of Babylon if you can.
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  They gained their freedom :)

  by HOTB in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  thought this young couple gave a very clear description of their, and possibly your/our, experiences from within the kh:https://youtu.be/vo2ekifftze?si=bg8rloubqdaew8py.

  hotb .

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  NotFormer

  Everyone is different. Whatever age you wake up at is the right age. 👍👌🤝

  Kudos to all who leave!
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  Steve Let has been cloned

  by JohnR1975 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he looks completely different and he doesn’t do that raised eyebrows and funny mouth that he used to.

  and something is going on with his hair.

  is it a combover or a wig or is that even him?

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  NotFormer

  The potential is enormous! Imagine Stephen Lett or some other GB member delivering a Kenneth Copeland or Joel Osteen sermon, in the appropriate voice. Or even better, giving a talk on YouTube, in his own voice, as to why the Jehovah's Witness religion sucks. Fun times, fun times! 😀
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  Col 2:16, the scripture that blows away all of WT's Pharasitical man-made rules and cult guilt trips

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
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  colossians 2:16.

  "ironically enough, i never even knew about this bible verse until i had grown up and was pomo of the watchtower cult.

  read it, then read it again.

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  NotFormer

  The human written sci-fi stories are fun to listen to and are rarely much more than ten minutes long. The AI ones are always thirty or more minutes long and incredibly repetitive. A while back they always featured an Admiral or Ambassador Chen, a Colonel Rodriguez and a token English name like Jackson. The alien general usually had the same name as well. 🙄

  I prefer Agro Squirrel's narration. He at least tries to find non-AI stuff.

  AQ probably spends more time tidying up the results than the other AI dependent generators of content.
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  Col 2:16, the scripture that blows away all of WT's Pharasitical man-made rules and cult guilt trips

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  colossians 2:16.

  "ironically enough, i never even knew about this bible verse until i had grown up and was pomo of the watchtower cult.

  read it, then read it again.

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  NotFormer

  I like posts of a few paragraphs or so, not pages and pages that could have been distilled into those few paragraphs that I like to read (and try to restrict myself to; not always successful there! 🙄) AI generation could well explain the sheer volume of content.

  Speaking of which, to go off on a tangent, does anyone read/listen to those AI generated stories on YouTube that purport to be taken from Reddit? My rule of thumb for identifying them: they are ridiculously long; usually forty minutes where the story could have been told in five to ten minutes. My favourite identifier is: "Something inside me snapped! I didn't yell; I didn't cry".

  Waiting for something to snap inside our favourite verbose poster, then we'll have him, dead to rights! 🙄
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  What Did You Do For Fun That You Felt The WT Frowned Upon?

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the light of the lifting of sanctions on glass clinking and recent threads on chess and dvds of lord of the rings, was there anything you did for fun, as a hobby or for recreational purposes that you felt might be "taken the wrong way" if it came to the attention of the elders or sister busybody?.

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  NotFormer

  In the light of the lifting of sanctions on glass clinking and recent threads on chess and DVDs of Lord of the Rings, was there anything you did for fun, as a hobby or for recreational purposes that you felt might be "taken the wrong way" if it came to the attention of the elders or Sister Busybody?
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  Toasting

  by hoser in

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  when did the jws make the rule that you couldn’t clink glasses together and raise glasses of wine?.

  and why the change to being a conscience matter now?.

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  NotFormer

  Beth Sarim: "Hard to see it.

  "I just think of all the birthdays through-out the average congregation.

  "Each birthday takes away focus & worship of the GB., organization.

  "Too much focus is directed away from the Borg."

  That's why Rutherford banned them in the first place.

  Reinstating them means huge amounts of planning, resources and labour will be diverted away from "DA werldwide werk". And don't forget, birthdays mean gatherings, and gatherings mean opportunities to sin. Elders who love sitting on JCs probably would rub their hands with glee at the idea. Those elders who are already overworked and unpaid for that work might groan at the thought.
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  Text book life

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take an example of a young man who grows up in a religious belief system jw or something.

  he mostly believes it but in truth is agnostic so is not absolute sure one way or another.. but he goes through the motions and gets married has kids, his kids grow up with the religious belief system.

  his wife is also technically a believer but they both have an overall agnostic approach.. this would be the text book life.

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  NotFormer

  Is this another commercial for "JW lite"? 🙄

  Just get the heck out of Babylon, if you can!