Which brings up the usual question: how do they have a legal team that is made up of loyal JWs? Do they hand pick trusted Bethelites that are then sent to law school?
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2023-August-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!
by Atlantis inpage 1. https://imgbox.com/32tnfnel.
page 2. https://imgbox.com/f8jh7e0m .
page 3. https://imgbox.com/chjmr4km .
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Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!
by NotFormer ini remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).
i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.
colour me gobsmacked!
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The trouble is that the old business model has failed, but the business structure that they built around it is still in place.
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Mary And The Two Witness Rule
by NotFormer inhttps://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/47672/top-secret-confidential.
in the above page, the september 1, 1987 watchtower article about breaching confidentiality is quoted.
mary is a medical worker and finds out that someone in congregation has had an abortion.
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I was able to find that. From p. 366, it tells the story of Toni and Linda. The story predates the above WT article, but shows that it was already WT policy before 1987. The handling of Linda's case by the elders is unbelievable.
The doctor in the case mentions how he vets potential employees by asking them how they would have handled that situation and not hiring them if they would behave like Toni. Although a prudent approach, I see it as being fraught with danger, in light of anti-discrimination laws. In many countries, it is illegal to ask potential employees certain types of questions, including about the candidate's religion. The doctor's questions could be seen as a backdoor way of discriminating on the basis of religion.
Would it be better to simply not employ JWs because of the liability they represent? But how would you find out if they can't be asked about their religion? Are there other backdoor ways around it that might work? Tell them about the office birthday and Christmas parties and see how they react? Ask them what medical treatment and first aid they authorise in case of an accident that renders them unconscious? What other questions might work, without provoking suspicion that something unkosher is going on?
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Is WT Using ATTENDANTS At The Conventions To Be: "TOY COPS"
by HiddlesWife ini have heard from a few ppimis and several pimos that the attendants who are stationedly-assigned to the front entrances of the borgvenues (cahs and other arenas) have been checking to see if any persons (members and non-member visitors) have badges.
on the other hand, if these persons don't have one, this is what i was told that these dubs do this: corral around the non-badge-wearing individual and interrogate he/she/them plus questioning them, "why are you here?!".
also, even if that person or persons have an invitation plus showed it to these dubs, these toy cops still do that procedure.
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Vidiot: "Is it just me, or does the Org almost seem to be morphing into a parody of itself?"
The Org became a parody of itself the moment they seriously started using terms like"Jehovah's loving arrangement". Most of their internal jargonese sounds like a cult parody.
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Is WT Using ATTENDANTS At The Conventions To Be: "TOY COPS"
by HiddlesWife ini have heard from a few ppimis and several pimos that the attendants who are stationedly-assigned to the front entrances of the borgvenues (cahs and other arenas) have been checking to see if any persons (members and non-member visitors) have badges.
on the other hand, if these persons don't have one, this is what i was told that these dubs do this: corral around the non-badge-wearing individual and interrogate he/she/them plus questioning them, "why are you here?!".
also, even if that person or persons have an invitation plus showed it to these dubs, these toy cops still do that procedure.
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careful: "So what's the market among "apostates"/"opposers" now for setting up counterfeit badge operations? You know, just like counterfeit passport or green card (in the USA) operations. Just how "spy intriguing" will it all become? Like James Bond?"
What's the market? For a market to exist, there must be supply and demand. I don't think that there would be any demand, so no market!
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The FAFO Ratio for PIMOs and ExJWs
by NotFormer inhttps://youtu.be/1c9r8mgqwfk.
how much did you have to f*** around, before you found out?.
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Note: the term f***ing around" here is a metaphor for how much tampering with the evidence, both real and fake, you have to do, in order to find out stuff. It's not about sleeping around. In this case it means, how much ferreting around, outside of acceptable WT sources of information, did you do before you realised it wasn't for you?
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Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!
by NotFormer ini remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).
i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.
colour me gobsmacked!
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Punkofnice: "I have long come to realise that the JWs are NOT a real religion, they are being suckered by a ruthless money oriented big corporation."
In a different thread I recently made the assertion that the WT was a door to door sales organisation and that Kingdom Halls were not for "Christian meetings", but were distribution centres/warehouses where the unpaid sales staff picked up their merchandise and got their instructions.
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JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inmy grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.
he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.
he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.
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Ozzie post: 'Nathan Knorr turned up in a big Cadillac that had been loaned to him by a sycophant. He was wearing his trade mark light suit and said to me “I don’t have a ticket, are you going to stop me coming in?”'
He was daring you to break the rules? 😲 Rank has its privileges, I guess. 🙄
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Jesus and Hail Zeus
by enoughisenough inmaybe not the best subject area for post, but i was watching 3 different youtube channels in which pronounciations of god's and his son's names were being discussed.
all 3 agreed that the scribes ( i believe thought to be greek ) when copying yeshua ( jesus) into greek used a word ( instead of yeshua ) that in greek meant hail zeus so that christians would unwittingly praise their god.
at least 2 of the videos mentioned the nicean counsel and over 50 gods were being voted on and they finially voted on 2 : krishna and zeus ( jesus christ ) anyway, all of this was interesting to say the least.
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Iesous is the Hellenised version of the Hebrew name Joshua/Yeshua, which means "Yahweh is salvation". It has nothing to do with Zeus.
It's probably how Joshua is rendered in the Septuagint, someone who has a copy might be able to check.
I just checked: according to Wikipedia, it is used in the Septuagint to represent Joshua.
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The FAFO Ratio for PIMOs and ExJWs
by NotFormer inhttps://youtu.be/1c9r8mgqwfk.
how much did you have to f*** around, before you found out?.
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How much did you have to F*** Around, before you Found Out?