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  Next change?

  by JW_Rogue in

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  so, first the turning in time got axed, now beards are okay, what is up next?

  women wearing dress slacks to the meeting?

  birthdays becoming acceptable?

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  NotFormer

  IIRC, Ray Franz said that the two thirds majority thing stopped the GB from removing the blood doctrine. That there was always a simple majority in favour of its removal, but there were enough hardliners to block it under the two thirds rule.

  Are there enough moderates now to create necessary changes to make the organisation truly kinder and gentler? Such real, rather than cosmetic, changes as the blood doctrine, baptism and shunning of children, allowing higher education and certain jobs that are off limits now.
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  55 Year Cycle shows up in March 2024 Watchtower

  by was a new boy in

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  did they hope that everybody who read the1969 awake as a kid is too senile to remember?.

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  NotFormer

  Millions now dead were alive when that article promised that they wouldn't die before the end.

  The organisation that wrote that article is very much alive. Never forget.
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  55 Year Cycle shows up in March 2024 Watchtower

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  did they hope that everybody who read the1969 awake as a kid is too senile to remember?.

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  NotFormer

  "I have been reading Awake since 1969..."

  And never woke up to the fact that it was dead wrong about the imminence of Armageddon, GT or whatever. 🙄
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  Broadcasts, Are they just a distraction?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the recent broad casts about not handing in time sheets, and then about beards, especially the beards, it seems so trivial, are those talks only released in order to distract the followers from the recent court case they lost on spain, from the csa cases, the kh sales and so on?.

  i reckon they're taking their lead from the media, distract and divide tactics..

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot, 😸😸😸😸
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  If AMG III would return now

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if amg iii would return now to the congregation, he would be mad because of:.

  - rank & file and elders not reporting fs time, very recent an issue to bring someone in highest correction mode.

  - jw's with official beard permission .

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  NotFormer

  As an outsider, when I was first becoming aware of the aura surrounding Tony Morris, I was struggling with it a bit. To me, he looks like the stereotype of a kindly old man; even in the Bottlegate video, he comes across as a nice old man. Heck, he even looks like Mr. Merlin, for Pete's sake!

  https://youtu.be/1ZiUM7jknaw?si=0JQfdmACRO_yY5iI

  Little did I realise that he may have been the old curmudgeon who was stopping the GB from lessening the beatings of the slaves. Just goes to show, looks can be deceiving!
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  JW sign is the sacred cow being idolized by the JWs

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this video makes valid points and the last pictures in the video says it all imo...i knew witnesses who wore the logo in their jewelry.

  the sign represents the organization, so the organization is what is really being worshipped instead of god almighty.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktadlxlqee8.

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  NotFormer

  Interesting how much the JWs are using the JW.org symbol everywhere and on everything. Did a similar culture exist around the old Watchtower symbol? Did JWs have that symbol on ties, jewellery, bible covers, etc?
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  Next change?

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, first the turning in time got axed, now beards are okay, what is up next?

  women wearing dress slacks to the meeting?

  birthdays becoming acceptable?

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  NotFormer

  Those seem to be the ones being speculated about. Aren't birthdays as a pagan festival pretty heavily ingrained within the JW mindset? So possibly less cosmetic than the other changes?

  The "last minute conversion" thing might be considered meatier, but it hasn't been confirmed yet by an official announcement.

  Relaxing the rules on clothing styles is arguably a foreseeable next step.

  Tertiary education is still seemingly being railed against, if that video of an elder being raked over the coals for his kid going to college is real.
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  JW sign is the sacred cow being idolized by the JWs

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this video makes valid points and the last pictures in the video says it all imo...i knew witnesses who wore the logo in their jewelry.

  the sign represents the organization, so the organization is what is really being worshipped instead of god almighty.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktadlxlqee8.

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  NotFormer

  "I recall prayers at the meetings when speaker begged: *O Jehovah help us bring glory to your organization"

  Somehow this makes me think of Cuba. In most countries, crimes are committed against the state or the crown. In Cuba, crimes are "against the Revolution".

  From what I've read here, no-one really fears "Jehovah" , but the "organisation" (spirit directed or otherwise 🙄). Is it a bit like those regimes, where everyone fears that midnight knock on the door? (I.e. being summoned by the elders?)
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  A BEARD PREDICTION FOR 2024

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. friends

  fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.

  many of the comments are hilarious.. .

  a beard prediction for 2024:.

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  NotFormer

  Now that beards are legal, this place should do great: https://www.beardpapas.com/
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  New Educational Center in Brazil and New Support Center of JW's in New York

  by Drearyweather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recent news on the jw website:.

  town of fishkill, new york, u.s.a., gives approval for new support center of jehovah’s witnesses (jw.org).

  on october 27, 2023, site plan approval was granted for new construction at the bethel facilities in the town of fishkill, new york, u.s.a. this approval from the town planning board means that work on the new fishkill support center of jehovah’s witnesses can begin immediately.

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  NotFormer

  What exactly is this building in Fishkill for? 50 odd acres across the road from Bethel, which recently downsized its staff. WT doesn't actually do or produce anything anymore; they don't print stuff for sale, nor do they have the farms. What are they building on such a large block? They're spending money like they still have some.

  Maintenance building? What are they maintaining? They don't have the giant printing factories anymore. Recreation centre? For whom? They're laying off Bethelites.

  As for the facility in Brazil: Why?