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  The Governing Body - Both sides of their coin

  by Ron.W. in

  1. watchtower
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  how many can you think of.... they speak for god.. it would seem presumptuous to say they speak for god,.

  they are neither inspired nor infallible.. they are god's only channel for issuing truth here on earth.

  they won't be apologising for any errors/falsehoods they have promoted in the past that fail.. congregation members must be quick and apologise for their errors to avoid harsh discipline/disfellowshipping.. when they change a major belief/doctrine you must not complain or criticise them.

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  NotFormer

  GrreatTeacher, those aren't unique to the WT. The doomsayers of "mainstream" Christianity (they're usually free agents who have their own "ministries") use exactly the same verses and tactics.

  Nevertheless, well spotted! 👍👌
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  Watchtower Witch??

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i assume no actual affiliation with bethel?

  😸😱🧙.

  https://www.facebook.com/watchtowerwitch/.

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  NotFormer

  That'll probably amuse her! 😸 I wonder if the Watchtower Witch is an exJW? She doesn't necessarily have to be; the Watchtower is an occult symbol from way back.
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  Watchtower Witch??

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
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  i assume no actual affiliation with bethel?

  😸😱🧙.

  https://www.facebook.com/watchtowerwitch/.

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  NotFormer

  I assume no actual affiliation with Bethel? 😸😱🧙

  https://www.facebook.com/WatchtowerWitch/
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  JW sign is the sacred cow being idolized by the JWs

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this video makes valid points and the last pictures in the video says it all imo...i knew witnesses who wore the logo in their jewelry.

  the sign represents the organization, so the organization is what is really being worshipped instead of god almighty.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktadlxlqee8.

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  NotFormer

  When I asked about previous Watchtower symbols, I meant the previous logo, with a silhouette of a Watchtower. Although the cross and crown thing is fascinating, it's a bit too early for this discussion. I meant, were pre JW.org logo JWs doing the same thing with the Watchtower logo? And apparently so :

  https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/525966155/watchtower-bible-lot-of-1-jw-lapel-pins?click_key=60aeaca304a01f7864f185aa350ac1bb2a67c51a%3A525966155&click_sum=c648cd70&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=watchtower+jewelry&ref=search_grid-329798-1-19

  This one might give some people nightmares:

  https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/601708838/watchtower-warwick-bethel-lapel-pin?click_key=3db63c08854aae705b667c1c2463057ccf5dcf7c%3A601708838&click_sum=9f7e2411&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=watchtower+jewelry&ref=search_grid-147803-1-23
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  Next change?

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, first the turning in time got axed, now beards are okay, what is up next?

  women wearing dress slacks to the meeting?

  birthdays becoming acceptable?

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  NotFormer

  IIRC, Ray Franz said that the two thirds majority thing stopped the GB from removing the blood doctrine. That there was always a simple majority in favour of its removal, but there were enough hardliners to block it under the two thirds rule.

  Are there enough moderates now to create necessary changes to make the organisation truly kinder and gentler? Such real, rather than cosmetic, changes as the blood doctrine, baptism and shunning of children, allowing higher education and certain jobs that are off limits now.
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  55 Year Cycle shows up in March 2024 Watchtower

  by was a new boy in

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  2. scandals

  did they hope that everybody who read the1969 awake as a kid is too senile to remember?.

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  NotFormer

  Millions now dead were alive when that article promised that they wouldn't die before the end.

  The organisation that wrote that article is very much alive. Never forget.
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  55 Year Cycle shows up in March 2024 Watchtower

  by was a new boy in

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  did they hope that everybody who read the1969 awake as a kid is too senile to remember?.

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  NotFormer

  "I have been reading Awake since 1969..."

  And never woke up to the fact that it was dead wrong about the imminence of Armageddon, GT or whatever. 🙄
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  Broadcasts, Are they just a distraction?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the recent broad casts about not handing in time sheets, and then about beards, especially the beards, it seems so trivial, are those talks only released in order to distract the followers from the recent court case they lost on spain, from the csa cases, the kh sales and so on?.

  i reckon they're taking their lead from the media, distract and divide tactics..

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot, 😸😸😸😸
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  If AMG III would return now

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if amg iii would return now to the congregation, he would be mad because of:.

  - rank & file and elders not reporting fs time, very recent an issue to bring someone in highest correction mode.

  - jw's with official beard permission .

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  NotFormer

  As an outsider, when I was first becoming aware of the aura surrounding Tony Morris, I was struggling with it a bit. To me, he looks like the stereotype of a kindly old man; even in the Bottlegate video, he comes across as a nice old man. Heck, he even looks like Mr. Merlin, for Pete's sake!

  https://youtu.be/1ZiUM7jknaw?si=0JQfdmACRO_yY5iI

  Little did I realise that he may have been the old curmudgeon who was stopping the GB from lessening the beatings of the slaves. Just goes to show, looks can be deceiving!
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  JW sign is the sacred cow being idolized by the JWs

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this video makes valid points and the last pictures in the video says it all imo...i knew witnesses who wore the logo in their jewelry.

  the sign represents the organization, so the organization is what is really being worshipped instead of god almighty.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktadlxlqee8.

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  NotFormer

  Interesting how much the JWs are using the JW.org symbol everywhere and on everything. Did a similar culture exist around the old Watchtower symbol? Did JWs have that symbol on ties, jewellery, bible covers, etc?