I'm also reminded of another Wizard of I'd cartoon
King, to peasants: Remember the Golden Rule!
Bung: What's the Golden Rule?
Wizard: He who has the gold, makes the rules.
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the slaves might be revolting
by pepperheart2 inon the watchtower website it says that most of the work that will be done fishkill will be out sourced to non jws .i thought that jws always used to build everything them selves.
this might explain what happend to ramapo they put an appeal out for free labour and people said no .
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the slaves might be revolting
by pepperheart2 inon the watchtower website it says that most of the work that will be done fishkill will be out sourced to non jws .i thought that jws always used to build everything them selves.
this might explain what happend to ramapo they put an appeal out for free labour and people said no .
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NotFormer
The spiritual standing thing is a real head scratcher. A boot licker would theoretically have a high spiritual standing, whereas someone who could actually drive a nail into a piece of wood wouldn't necessarily.
Handing out mundane tasks as privileges that improve your standing is great for creating an atmosphere of loyalty. But the price of that loyalty is probably competence.
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Why are the 2 newly appointed Governing Body Members from Bethel, when there are anointed ones all over the world? they could have used.
by RULES & REGULATIONS inlibrary.
books & brochures.
enjoy life forever!—an interactive bible course.
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NotFormer
LongHairGal: "Is everybody forgetting that we don’t know the reasons AM3 was removed? There is speculation he may have not been in agreement with the changes that were just implemented in the annual meeting.. Situations like this would possibly be more likely to occur in the future with somebody from elsewhere."
The paradox here is that if this speculation is correct, that Tony Morris was too hardline and obstinate in the face of change, it means that he was the one most loyal to long held WT doctrine. He was an outside convert, completely sold on the gospel according to the WT and was unwilling to compromise on it. Arguably exactly the kind of person they want, according to everything they've written over the years. He was punished for being too loyal!
So are born-ins more malleable than converts?
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Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself
by TheScientist inthis topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.
many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.
in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".
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NotFormer
"I don't know how this expression sounds in English..."
I agree with Vidiot, it sounds great! 👍👌
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crazy ebay listing
by stan livedeath ini was searching a sellers listings for my hobby stuff--model railways--and the seller has listed this amongst it.. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395090358779?hash=item5bfd3871fb:g:qmyaaoswidnliyfk.
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NotFormer
Imagine if they still expected JWs to go door to door with recordings of Da Judge's speeches! 😱🤢🤮
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crazy ebay listing
by stan livedeath ini was searching a sellers listings for my hobby stuff--model railways--and the seller has listed this amongst it.. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395090358779?hash=item5bfd3871fb:g:qmyaaoswidnliyfk.
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NotFormer
" I think sales would have been higher, if they hadn't gone for that god-awful colour ! Was that just to make it look different from "Christendom's Bible" ??
It should have had "Don't Panic" written on it, in large friendly letters... 🙄
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🎄The Life of Antony Morris
by Diogenesister in🎄 just thought this not former/vidiot back & forth deserved it's own christmas special !!!🎄.
vidiot6 days ago.
notformer - “…if he does attend a kingdom hall physically, i imagine there're some ‘security’ arrangements in place…”.
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NotFormer
Hey, I missed this! Diogenesister, glad we gave you a chuckle. I'm also glad you linked that clip 😺. I thought of doing it myself, but things were beginning to stray from the subject already! 😱😸
A belated Merry Christmas to you and Vidiot! 🎄🎁
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Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself
by TheScientist inthis topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.
many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.
in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".
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NotFormer
I think the OP is right that the current harsh, hardline disfellowshipping policy creates a rod for their own back that they can't afford anymore. Violence begets violence, and the WT isn't in the position it once was where harsh discipline was an effective tool of terror to keep people in line. Previously, they were enjoying growth and could create an "us vs them", isolatory wall around the R&F that they were afraid of being on the outside of.
Things are different now. There are probably more exes and PIMOs than members and true believers. There is the internet. Anyone questioning anything can instantly find answers in the comfort and safety of their own home. And they also very quickly find out that they are not isolated and alone, the way the WT wants them to feel, but that there are support networks out there, for anyone who needs help.
Once they could rely on fear and compliance, but things have changed. MissDaSilva, far from quietly slipping out, feels confident enough to lob a grenade in her former elders' faces. If you live by the sword, you perish by the sword ⚔️, and the WT has created a class of angry warriors with nothing to lose, who would like nothing better than to see the Tower fall.
They're squeezing too hard in this day and age, and their harshness is coming back to bite them. So, logically, rationally, the best course is to end disfellowshipping, allow disassociation without consequences and try to support and strengthen the true believers still left in the ranks.
A brief footnote on disfellowshipping: the GB need to get straight in their heads the difference between sin and crime, and let the governing authorities investigate and sort out crime, which is their job.
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The GB's New Year's Resolutions
by NotFormer intowards the end of this year, they managed to shock many on here and elsewhere with new resolutions, like publishers no longer having to record hours and now allowing men to grow beards without having to face judgement or judgemental behaviour.
but, as pointed out by a few, these amount to being not much more than cosmetic changes, one in administrative paperwork and the other in personal grooming habits.
the other major change announced in the leaked agm video is the possibility of being saved at the last minute.
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NotFormer
Towards the end of this year, they managed to shock many on here and elsewhere with new resolutions, like publishers no longer having to record hours and now allowing men to grow beards without having to face judgement or judgemental behaviour. But, as pointed out by a few, these amount to being not much more than cosmetic changes, one in administrative paperwork and the other in personal grooming habits.
The other major change announced in the leaked AGM video is the possibility of being saved at the last minute. It has yet to be officially announced, released, whatever. This one is arguably more consequential in the face of WT beliefs previously peddled. And the current expectation seems to be that it will be announced soon, in the new year. So, a much anticipated New Year's resolution.
What other changes of heart and direction should we expect to see from the GB in the coming year? What, from a rational and conservative approach, could we expect and hope to see change?
And from a completely emotional perspective, unfettered by rational considerations, what outrageous, totally unpredictable changes would you hope to see? Let your imagination run wild! 😁🎉🎇🎆🎊🎈🎂
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Broadcasts, Are they just a distraction?
by KerryKing inthe recent broad casts about not handing in time sheets, and then about beards, especially the beards, it seems so trivial, are those talks only released in order to distract the followers from the recent court case they lost on spain, from the csa cases, the kh sales and so on?.
i reckon they're taking their lead from the media, distract and divide tactics..
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