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  GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!

  by WingCommander in

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  you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!

  the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.

  summary: .

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot: "This isn’t about retaining membership.

  It’s about keeping their charity status to stave off insolvency"

  Absolutely. All these steps towards a "kinder gentler " organisation seem to be illusions designed to look like a loosening of the reins. It's a smokescreen designed to look like the GB doesn't actually tell the R&F what to do and how to act.

  A big clue is in how they are telling JWs that they can use their "Bible trained conscience". That's code for: we still want you to be arseholes to the disfellowshipped, but if you are a bit less of an arsehole to them, we can present ourselves to "the World's governments" as lightening up on the disfellowshipping and shunning.
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  Colossians 1:15-16 and the word "other"

  by yogosans14 in

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  "he is the image of the invisible god, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities.

  all [other] things have been created through him and for him.

  " (col. 1:15-17, for context.

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  NotFormer

  aqwsed12345, is there a reason you're digging up these old threads?
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  Petition against Ostracism Practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. beliefs

  https://peticaopublica.com.br/pview.aspx?pi=br137007.

  petition against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.

  public petition: against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.

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  NotFormer

  The two witnesses rule almost guarantees that the elders* will not convict a child abuser (unless they confess. And what are the chances of that?) Parents who press the issue are in danger of disfellowshipment for gossip, particularly if they try to warn other parents within the congregation, among other things.

  * And this is one of the main sticking points: police work and investigation of crime is the purview of the superior authorities, i.e. secular governments. The various BOEs have no business in these matters.
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  An april afternoon with Steven Lett in Amsterdam

  by Gorb in

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  in april, on a sunday afternoon the ajax soccer stadium in amsterdam will be filled with all dutch witnesses for a special visit of steven lett.. never done before in holland.

  ofcourse it will be better then ever.

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  NotFormer

  Sounds like fun! 🧟🤮
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  Petition against Ostracism Practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://peticaopublica.com.br/pview.aspx?pi=br137007.

  petition against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.

  public petition: against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.

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  NotFormer

  Diogenesister, that list of yours makes a great point: the WT demands the shunning of people for reasons far beyond the scope of the "sins" Paul pointed out. Going beyond the written word, so to speak.
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  1970's Russell Pyramid Photo!

  by Atlantis in

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  1970's photo of the russell pyramid.

  the picture was sent to us by a former bethelite who was also the person who took the picture.

  of course, the pyramid is not there anymore.. .

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  NotFormer

  Wasn't he technically part of the 144,000? Why didn't he partake? 🤣
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  Forget 1914, the 1975 generation are now passing away!

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  we still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.

  it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.

  the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.

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  NotFormer

  Some do, some have turned their backs on religion altogether, some (like me) were never in and are here to understand those door-knocking people a bit better. You'll find that this is a "broad church"😉

  Some are still "physically in, mentally out" (PIMO). They can't leave because of the whole disfellowshipping and shunning mess.
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  4-1-05 WT Galileo and Catholic Church: Lessons to be learned

  by blondie in

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  2. bible

  i won't go through the whole account of galileo; he believed what his eyes told him, not the church, and died under house arrest.. .

  the wts has these comments:.

  because galileo rejected an interpretation of scripture based on greek philosophy, he stood condemned!

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  NotFormer

  That's all very interesting and all, but why resurrect this thread, instead of starting a new one and linking to and quoting this one?*

  * I may have been guilty of the same thing; when you do a search, you don't always realise how old a thread is. I'm trying to mend my ways.
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  They Came To The Door!

  by NotFormer in

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  going door to door with their "memorial" invitation.

  "so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?

  them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".

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  NotFormer

  a watcher: "2023 Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 22,312"

  It was around 10,000 two decades ago. Anyone baptised before 1935* would probably be more than a hundred years old. There can't be 22,000 of 'em still alive. What's the criteria these days?

  *I think. I know it's 1930 something...
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  What has changed since January 2009?

  by KerryKing in

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  2. beliefs

  hi, i was df'd in jan 09. have not been in touch much with the jws apart from a few memorials i went to.. what with all the online presence they have nowadays, it just feels like a totally different religion.

  i have seen them with their tablets and phones at the hall, hardly any physical bibles or books at all, makes me think how ai (or the borg) could so easily change words and phrasing in the bible to suit them without making a big deal of it, like 'a new light' talk or wt article.

  doctrinally has much changed since 2009?.

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  NotFormer

  Ah, I didn't realise that she had some connection with Egypt. It makes more sense like that. Although slimboyfat's gender swapping observation is still there.