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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  NotFormer

  "starting your own nutty sect? you need to work on the head canon a bit more though methinks."

  Yes. If you reject the superstructure, you should also reject its foundations.
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  Kingdom hall cleaning

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what are your memories of hall cleaning?.

  i actually enjoyed it on the whole, my dad as the elder always tried to keep it to under one hour but in my later years in a hard-line congregation it was a chore.

  the po's wife had a printed list and we had to complete it all before left (or got disapproving looks if we left after an hour).. as well as vacuuming the whole building the lost said you had to dismantle the vacuum and clean and polish all the internal elements.

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  NotFormer

  Praotes1914, perhaps you should tell us your story in a separate post. Hit the New Topic tab at the top of the page. Don't try posting more than two new topics a day. They would be queued and not appear until the next day.
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  God, one person, or three?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the trinity doctrine says god is three persons in one being.. yet the bible says god is one.. gal 3.20 a mediator, however, implies more than one party; but god is one.

  niv.

  gal 3.20 now a mediator is not for just one person, but god is one.

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  NotFormer

  "My mentor Joe Riley coined the phase the Twinity. I think that pretty much sums up my theology"

  "Binitarian" is a term that exists within the broad spectrum of mainstream Christianity.
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  WT CONVENTION RELEASE LIFE OF JESUS

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://wawa-news.com/index.php/2024/06/14/episode-1-of-jesus-christ-series-set-for-release-at-gfl-memorial-gardens-june-14-16th/ .

  episode 1 of jesus christ series set for release at gfl memorial gardens june 14 – 16th.

  in new south wales, australia, there exist replicas of regions once visited by the most notable prophet who ever lived.

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  NotFormer

  "And it is good that they are talking about Jesus, so don't knock it."

  While it is good to see that the WT seems to have discovered Jesus, I bet the question of most on here would be something like: "What's the ulterior motive?"

  One possibility I see is that any emphasis on Jesus will soon be directed to the GB, Jesus' brothers*, the present and future kings of the JWs.

  * Excuse me, while I throw up! 🤢🤮
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  WT CONVENTION RELEASE LIFE OF JESUS

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://wawa-news.com/index.php/2024/06/14/episode-1-of-jesus-christ-series-set-for-release-at-gfl-memorial-gardens-june-14-16th/ .

  episode 1 of jesus christ series set for release at gfl memorial gardens june 14 – 16th.

  in new south wales, australia, there exist replicas of regions once visited by the most notable prophet who ever lived.

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  NotFormer

  This has "The Chosen" vibes about it.

  From Wikipedia:

  "The Chosen is an American historical drama television series created, directed and co-written by American filmmaker Dallas Jenkins.[1] It is the first multiseason series about the life and ministry of Jesus of Nazareth.[2] Primarily set in Judaea and Galilee in the 1st century, the series centers on Jesus and the different people who met and followed or otherwise interacted with him."

  Someone at WT HQ saw The Chosen and decided that the WT, being an up and coming video studio, should get a piece of that action, apparently. 🙄 The only reason I can see for a WT version might be to shoehorn quotes* from the NWT (most akkurate evaaaah! 🙄) into a biblical saga.

  *And the language and feel of the NWT
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  Kingdom hall cleaning

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what are your memories of hall cleaning?.

  i actually enjoyed it on the whole, my dad as the elder always tried to keep it to under one hour but in my later years in a hard-line congregation it was a chore.

  the po's wife had a printed list and we had to complete it all before left (or got disapproving looks if we left after an hour).. as well as vacuuming the whole building the lost said you had to dismantle the vacuum and clean and polish all the internal elements.

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  NotFormer

  Ron.W., you should be careful playing that stuff. Played loudly enough, it might summon a possessed Smurf doll! 😳😸

  Seriously though, would you have faced any repercussions, had you been "caught"?
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  Should Women Be Given Authority In God's Congregation?

  by Golden4Altar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  should women be given authority in god's congregation?yorww congregation manuscript #1009in the beginning, god created man and woman, created both them in his "image," and according to his likeness.

  this means, of course, jehovah god originally endowed both man and woman with the same capabilities and qualities of his own likeness.

  thus, man and woman have the same god-given abilities, gifts and attributes so as to reflect all the "fruits of the spirit" and godly qualities in their lives, if they so desire.

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  NotFormer

  https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/nana-visitor-lower-decks-deep-space-nine-interview

  I didn't source the picture of Nana Visitor earlier. Sloppy work on my part 😔
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  Rutherford himself as Jesus on the Jordan?

  by Sektenkult in

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  NotFormer

  I think he didn't have all he had left in his cupboard.

  Isn't it more along the lines of "didn't have all his cups in his cupboard"? Sort of like "A few sandwiches short of a picnic"?
  
  
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  Should Women Be Given Authority In God's Congregation?

  by Golden4Altar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  should women be given authority in god's congregation?yorww congregation manuscript #1009in the beginning, god created man and woman, created both them in his "image," and according to his likeness.

  this means, of course, jehovah god originally endowed both man and woman with the same capabilities and qualities of his own likeness.

  thus, man and woman have the same god-given abilities, gifts and attributes so as to reflect all the "fruits of the spirit" and godly qualities in their lives, if they so desire.

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  NotFormer

  TxNVSue2023, YORWW stands for Yah, Our Righteousness Worldwide. It is a group that claims that JWs are basically right, but have the wrong leader. Their leader, Donald Burney, is the true leader of the JWs, in their doctrine. He is also the Messiah, according to them, and the 144,000 are Jamaican. He aims to get every JW couple divorced, I understand. That's a sample of what I have been led to believe that they believe, but there could be more. Needless to say, we don't actually need any more in order to make up our minds.

  They've been fishing on here for a while lately. They seem to believe that the cure for those who have issues with various aspects of JW doctrine and practices is : more of the same! 🙄

  ETA: Great Wiggles clip! 😸
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  Leaked Info: Watchtower Received $497 Million From One Country (Britain) In Last Six Years! [Must Watch!]

  by Golden4Altar in

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  2. friends

  leaked info:watchtower received $497 million from one country (britain) in last six years!

  [must watch!].

  this video was just released with documented proof, see this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187#p187.

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  NotFormer

  OP, Jamaica receives $290m US from the UK in remittances per annum. Divided among the 144,000*, that equals about $2000 each**.

  *YORWW doctrine states that the 144,000 of Revelation will be Jamaican. OP has quoted The Report, a YORWW publication before, so I assume that OP is one of Burney's disciples.

  **Sacred maths is fun! 😊