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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

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  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  NotFormer

  It should be scriptural because they always warn against "going beyond what is written".
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  Did Anyone Have Fun With Their Field Service Reports?

  by NotFormer in

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  now that there is new light on reporting hours in field service, it's raised a few questions for me, who was never in the jws.

  did any of you ever have fun with the field service report slips, by finding creative ways of reporting time without raising suspicions in those who oversaw the collection of those slips?.

  also, can anyone upload an image of what the slips looked like, or point me to a post that gives uploaded examples of the sort of paperwork that was familiar to jws in good standing?.

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  Meanmrmustard, I remember people saying that when they were out in field service, they would pick out what houses they would occupy when the owners were slain at Armageddon. That could have passed for "fun" in Dubdom.
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  Hailstones (2)

  by NotFormer in

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  with the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.

  can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.

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  Absolutely Diogenesister, the two stances look mutually exclusive to me

  Beth Sarim, they theoretically could walk it back under new "new light" 🙄, but I imagine that every time there's new light, they lose some hangers on that have just grown tired of it all. New light that returns to the old hardline position after this "kinder, gentler" change might be too much for a lot of people.
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  Hailstones (2)

  by NotFormer in

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  with the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.

  can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.

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  Yes, I think that the point is not the legitimacy of their hailstones interpretation, but what they currently believe about it. And within that belief, the recent announcements seem to preclude that "hailstones message" from ever happening. The GB have basically painted themselves into a corner on this one.
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  Did Anyone Have Fun With Their Field Service Reports?

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now that there is new light on reporting hours in field service, it's raised a few questions for me, who was never in the jws.

  did any of you ever have fun with the field service report slips, by finding creative ways of reporting time without raising suspicions in those who oversaw the collection of those slips?.

  also, can anyone upload an image of what the slips looked like, or point me to a post that gives uploaded examples of the sort of paperwork that was familiar to jws in good standing?.

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  Thanks Atlantis. It's a fairly generic form. I was hoping it might lend itself to creative input from the larrikin PIMO types that must have been wishing for ways to make fools of the GB. I can't see much you can do with this in that vein. Did any PIMOs figure out ways to do it?

  moley: was that the main way you maintained your sanity?
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  Thought on “0 hours” reporting

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.

  beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.

  the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?

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  "This change, and others, would not have got the unanimous vote while Tony Morris had a say."

  That's an interesting charge. Was he that much of an old guard hardliner?
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  Thought on “0 hours” reporting

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.

  beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.

  the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?

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  NotFormer

  "Yes, but saying Hi to a disfellowshipped one would not allow you to tick any boxes."

  They just love their two-tiered class systems, don't they? 🙄
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  Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

  by NotFormer in

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  sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

  they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

  one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

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  RonW, I sincerely hope that that anecdote is one of those JW urban legends! 😱
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  How to stirr up the poor into digital online business

  by Gorb in

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  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-november-2023/hulda-reached-her-goal/.

  what about this watchtower article?

  in my jw time i felt not comfortable about this kind of "devine education".. poor sister works above her self to get a device.. jw.org hypocrisy for going full digital.. g..

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  NotFormer

  That's an interesting point. In Rutherford's day, when the whole org was being weaponised into a door to door sales business, all the paperwork would have been literally on paper and would have needed an army of clerks to administer it. Hence the large Bethel presence and the farms to support them.

  I imagine there has been resistance to downsizing by the old guard because they would remember the glory days of a huge Bethel workforce which is indeed, as you say, just not warranted these days. They would probably rather be surrounded by a large, bloated group of Yes Men, than a small but efficient one.

  Do the farms still exist in any form?

  I'd say that your thoughts on the matter are sound. If they thoroughly analysed where they want to be and the manpower requirement for that goal, a much smaller administrative staff would probably suffice. But the GB probably still hankers for the good old days...
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  I received Blood...What are the JW's going to do to me?

  by smoky21 in

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  2. medical

  i haven't posted on here for years.

  i also don't frequent this forum like i used to.. i have posted my story before, like 8 years ago.

  i have been a baptized witness for the last 30+ years, but have not attended meetings in the last 15 years.

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  NotFormer

  I did once ask a surgeon about the HLC interfering with patients and he said that he basically doesn't let them get anywhere near his patients.