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  Date a JW student

  by Renee86 in

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  can a witness date and court a jw student if he intends to get baptized?

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  NotFormer

  An old thread, but I thought I'd add another question to it: What if a JW married or dated someone who was disfellowshipped?

  Would they be disfellowshipped? Are there clear rules on the subject?
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  Indian convention - 3 JWs died

  by usualusername1 in

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  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-67259078.

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  "But TA Sreekumar, a regional spokesperson for the Jehovah's Witnesses, denied this and told Reuters news agency that he was unaware if Mr Martin had even been present at the event.
  "The explosions occurred seconds after the end of a prayer as part of the day's event. The first blast took place in the middle of the hall. Seconds later, two more explosions rocked simultaneously on either sides of the hall," Sreekumar had earlier told local media"
  If the accused wasn't there and there was more than one IED, then what really happened?
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  Two biggest issues for Watchtower right now

  by Teddnzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  selena accused tony morris of being involved in child abuse and the pimo bethelite who just got kicked out.

  let’s see how this rolls out.

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  NotFormer

  It's always tempting to want the government to go in hard to punish and stop abuses. The trouble is that you can create more problems. A lot of freedoms could be jeopardised, such as freedom of religion, freedom of association, freedom of speech, etc.

  I bet that the German branch of the JWs wasn't rife with CSA cases from 1933-1945...
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  Two biggest issues for Watchtower right now

  by Teddnzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  selena accused tony morris of being involved in child abuse and the pimo bethelite who just got kicked out.

  let’s see how this rolls out.

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot, the old threat was veiled in the distorted bible verse "Where would we go?", that JWs were the only support network, and that being cut off from them was the ruination of a JW's life. I wonder when "critical mass" was/will be reached, when the number of exes potentially providing support is enough to counterbalance the WT 's pull and influence.

  Desirous, unfortunately, the courts can be slow too. There's a bit of a "how long?" factor there, too, sad to say. Fortunately, governments are beginning to wake up to the organisation's abuses.
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  No Blood Policy and some repercussions

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thank you atlantis for the emails that you send out to so many of us.

  in one email that i received dated 21st october was a jw document title "information for patients requiring chemotherapy or surgery".

  the organization never ceases to shock and i was disgusted with the information included in this document because it leads to their followers not getting the best medical care, not just because of their no blood policy but because of the other repercussions which they highlight in this information guide.. they begin by stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions.. point 7 states.

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  NotFormer

  Yeah, it's hard to capture "tone of voice" when merely posting text. 🙊

  It sucks that there is a "drag factor" that comes with their prohibitions. As you suggest in your mother's case, even if they repealed the blood doctrine tomorrow, many would continue to follow today's prohibition, because to them, it was always Jehovah's will. It was such for all their life, and a change in policy wouldn't change their lifetime of perception that receiving a blood transfusion would be wrong in Jehovah's eyes.
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  Indian convention - 3 JWs died

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-67259078.

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  NotFormer

  "Mr Martin claimed he was a registered member of the religious group and was angry with its "anti-national" teachings."

  A disgruntled ex?
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  No Blood Policy and some repercussions

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thank you atlantis for the emails that you send out to so many of us.

  in one email that i received dated 21st october was a jw document title "information for patients requiring chemotherapy or surgery".

  the organization never ceases to shock and i was disgusted with the information included in this document because it leads to their followers not getting the best medical care, not just because of their no blood policy but because of the other repercussions which they highlight in this information guide.. they begin by stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions.. point 7 states.

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  NotFormer

  I mean that they are falsely practicing medicine. They're giving medical advice, no matter how much they try to deny it. One man's "advice" is another man's commandments.

  TonusOH, the commandments they gave your mother constitute medical directives; they were acting as though they were qualified medical professionals, even though you quite rightly identify them as quacks. If only the various medical boards could go after them for illegally practicing medicine 💊💉!
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  Thought on “0 hours” reporting

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.

  beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.

  the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?

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  NotFormer

  dropoffyourkeylee, That's an interesting observation, that changing the business model changes the skill set required to advance within that business model. I wonder what type of people they are now trying to advance within the system?
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  No Blood Policy and some repercussions

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thank you atlantis for the emails that you send out to so many of us.

  in one email that i received dated 21st october was a jw document title "information for patients requiring chemotherapy or surgery".

  the organization never ceases to shock and i was disgusted with the information included in this document because it leads to their followers not getting the best medical care, not just because of their no blood policy but because of the other repercussions which they highlight in this information guide.. they begin by stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions.. point 7 states.

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  NotFormer

  Whatever spin they are putting out there, they are practicing medicine!
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  Thought on “0 hours” reporting

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.

  beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.

  the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?

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  NotFormer

  Everyone gets a participation trophy 🏆😺!

  Are they continually "lowering the bar" with a view to eventually allowing women to do certain tasks in the Kingdom Halls? Not that allowing women in is "lowering the bar", but the old chauvinists in the GB probably think so.