Were there any casualties?
NotFormer
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BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?
by was a new boy inin the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.
then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..
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JWLITE
by Teddnzo ineven elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.
they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.
i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..
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NotFormer
It must all take a psychological toll, eventually.
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NotFormer
Which brings up a point made on another thread, how safe is Tony Morris?
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NotFormer
"WHY WHY WHY do these terrorists keep targeting ordinary folk who have no power to change anything?"
I remember reading a self-help book where the author basically said that assassins were worse than terrorists (back when the Kennedy era was still relatively fresh). I couldn't understand the logic. An assassin takes risks to go after a powerful person that they believe is responsible for whatever imagined transgression, whereas a terrorist just kills defenseless little people.
Perhaps the GB feels safe in their guarded compound, but Hamas's recent attacks only used equipment that's readily available in the US.
Drearyweather, thanks for the insight. The guy was obviously out to hurt and kill (ordinary and powerless) people. Did he test his system to see if it would work before trying it out for real? Did no-one notice, if he did?
Why did the WT spokesman try to deny that the bloke was even there?
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BluesBrother "Perhaps it is time for them to employ professional security guards. As an attendant we knew there were also security guards but although keen…. they were amateurs."
Probably a good idea, but are they going to search every tiffin box? They might want to bring back on site food service if they don't want to have to search everybody's lunch.
Didn't the fact that a bloke on his own had four tiffin boxes raise any eyebrows?
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Date a JW student
by Renee86 incan a witness date and court a jw student if he intends to get baptized?
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An old thread, but I thought I'd add another question to it: What if a JW married or dated someone who was disfellowshipped?
Would they be disfellowshipped? Are there clear rules on the subject?
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Indian convention - 3 JWs died
by usualusername1 inhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-67259078.
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"But TA Sreekumar, a regional spokesperson for the Jehovah's Witnesses, denied this and told Reuters news agency that he was unaware if Mr Martin had even been present at the event.
"The explosions occurred seconds after the end of a prayer as part of the day's event. The first blast took place in the middle of the hall. Seconds later, two more explosions rocked simultaneously on either sides of the hall," Sreekumar had earlier told local media"
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Two biggest issues for Watchtower right now
by Teddnzo inselena accused tony morris of being involved in child abuse and the pimo bethelite who just got kicked out.
let’s see how this rolls out.
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It's always tempting to want the government to go in hard to punish and stop abuses. The trouble is that you can create more problems. A lot of freedoms could be jeopardised, such as freedom of religion, freedom of association, freedom of speech, etc.
I bet that the German branch of the JWs wasn't rife with CSA cases from 1933-1945...
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Two biggest issues for Watchtower right now
by Teddnzo inselena accused tony morris of being involved in child abuse and the pimo bethelite who just got kicked out.
let’s see how this rolls out.
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Vidiot, the old threat was veiled in the distorted bible verse "Where would we go?", that JWs were the only support network, and that being cut off from them was the ruination of a JW's life. I wonder when "critical mass" was/will be reached, when the number of exes potentially providing support is enough to counterbalance the WT 's pull and influence.
Desirous, unfortunately, the courts can be slow too. There's a bit of a "how long?" factor there, too, sad to say. Fortunately, governments are beginning to wake up to the organisation's abuses.
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No Blood Policy and some repercussions
by Listener inthank you atlantis for the emails that you send out to so many of us.
in one email that i received dated 21st october was a jw document title "information for patients requiring chemotherapy or surgery".
the organization never ceases to shock and i was disgusted with the information included in this document because it leads to their followers not getting the best medical care, not just because of their no blood policy but because of the other repercussions which they highlight in this information guide.. they begin by stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions.. point 7 states.
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Yeah, it's hard to capture "tone of voice" when merely posting text. 🙊
It sucks that there is a "drag factor" that comes with their prohibitions. As you suggest in your mother's case, even if they repealed the blood doctrine tomorrow, many would continue to follow today's prohibition, because to them, it was always Jehovah's will. It was such for all their life, and a change in policy wouldn't change their lifetime of perception that receiving a blood transfusion would be wrong in Jehovah's eyes.