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  Merry Christmas

  by jhine in

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  so for those amongst us who celebrate the season .

  merry christmas everyone.

  .. jan from tam .

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  NotFormer

  Bribie, why does a future great tribulation stop us from doing good today? Celebrating Christmas does no harm.
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  A BEARD PREDICTION FOR 2024

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.

  many of the comments are hilarious.. .

  a beard prediction for 2024:.

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  NotFormer

  AndersonsInfo: "WTC files for bankruptcy and half of the GB are forced to retire."

  As long as they each get two houses, it'll be fine!
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  NotFormer

  Is he expected to do the door to door work? I want the scuttlebutt from his car group!

  But seriously, if he does attend a Kingdom Hall physically, I imagine there're some "security" arrangements in place. People turning up for meetings who are not known to the congregation will be due for some heavy scrutinising, I imagine. Possibly told the Hall is full and to try the next one over.
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  2023-12-15--Beards-BOE!

  by Atlantis in

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  governing body update #8. beards--see page 3 #2. page 1.--https://imgbox.com/qs27zbgh.

  page 2.--https://imgbox.com/r4jz1fvm .

  page 3.--https://imgbox.com/wynbxegx .

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  NotFormer

  BTW, goatees are not all that obtrusive, unlike a full on Russell beard. Why weren't they allowed? Is it because Satan is often depicted as having a goatee in popular imagery? 🤔😸
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  2023-12-15--Beards-BOE!

  by Atlantis in

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  governing body update #8. beards--see page 3 #2. page 1.--https://imgbox.com/qs27zbgh.

  page 2.--https://imgbox.com/r4jz1fvm .

  page 3.--https://imgbox.com/wynbxegx .

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  NotFormer

  "I begged him to just be patient and serve without a goatee for just 12 months to see if if things settled down as I didn't want to lose a good brother and friend over his small beard.

  "He agreed to give it 12 months.

  "He rang me within a week to the old elder had rung him up and apologised profusely, saying he was wrong, he could serve with his beard.. this was around 2013 so this issue must have been bubbling up for years."

  The level of micromanagement is ridiculous. I didn't realise until reading through these "beard new light" threads that the beard thing was mainly an "unwritten rule". It was so pervasive in exJW conversations that I thought that there must be a pretty comprehensive paper trail in the literature about it. The imagery certainly gave the impression; Jesus had the barest of neatly trimmed beards and a very short, conservative haircut. Heck, there's even one old image of Jesus in a WT, without a beard at all!

  I suppose one less club to beat the sheep about the head with is a mercy, albeit a small one.
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  Merry Christmas

  by jhine in

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  so for those amongst us who celebrate the season .

  merry christmas everyone.

  .. jan from tam .

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  NotFormer

  Happy Christmas to everyone!
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  How my awakening began.

  by MissDaSilva in

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  about a month ago i started having a clear out of old clothes, books and bric a brac etc….. i don’t know what came over me but i decided to chuck out all my old jw literature because we literally have no more room.

  it started with magazines, then books, ministry literature and once i started, couldn’t stop.

  weird right?

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  NotFormer

  MissDaSilva, that's a rather sudden transition. In less than a month from your "epiphany" to engaging with people you previously presumably wouldn't be caught dead with. Impressive 😁
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  NotFormer

  Hmm, the "two houses" makes me think of Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson. Perhaps we should start referring to Tony "Two Houses" Morris.

  https://youtu.be/HLjS3gzHetA?si=XP2z-_I2CEsd3H0I
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

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  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  NotFormer

  "90 hours a month ? Thats lightweight..in my day it was 100 a month"

  Luxury!

  https://youtu.be/VKHFZBUTA4k?si=y475jALChXX0A-ft
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  What has the Spiritual Paradise of the WTS been over time

  by blondie in

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  the first mention i find in the wts publications is 1958. although the wts says the index goes from 1930 to 1985, nothing appears before 1958 a search only found by using the phrase "spiritual paradise" not in the index.

  in 2015 there was a clarification of the phrase "of course, we should not conclude that the terms “spiritual paradise” and “spiritual temple” are the same.

  the spiritual temple is god’s arrangement for true worship.".

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  NotFormer

  'The other expression used to excuse this nonsense is : "It was our understanding at the time".................. utter Bollocks as well'

  Did they ever adopt an "It is our understanding at this time" phrase, in the face of potentially fatal new doctrines? Kind of a CYA strategy. I suppose there were other phrases that meant "this looks voluntary, but woe betide if you do it/don't do it!"