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  Next change?

  by JW_Rogue in

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  so, first the turning in time got axed, now beards are okay, what is up next?

  women wearing dress slacks to the meeting?

  birthdays becoming acceptable?

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  NotFormer

  Those seem to be the ones being speculated about. Aren't birthdays as a pagan festival pretty heavily ingrained within the JW mindset? So possibly less cosmetic than the other changes?

  The "last minute conversion" thing might be considered meatier, but it hasn't been confirmed yet by an official announcement.

  Relaxing the rules on clothing styles is arguably a foreseeable next step.

  Tertiary education is still seemingly being railed against, if that video of an elder being raked over the coals for his kid going to college is real.
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  JW sign is the sacred cow being idolized by the JWs

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this video makes valid points and the last pictures in the video says it all imo...i knew witnesses who wore the logo in their jewelry.

  the sign represents the organization, so the organization is what is really being worshipped instead of god almighty.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktadlxlqee8.

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  "I recall prayers at the meetings when speaker begged: *O Jehovah help us bring glory to your organization"

  Somehow this makes me think of Cuba. In most countries, crimes are committed against the state or the crown. In Cuba, crimes are "against the Revolution".

  From what I've read here, no-one really fears "Jehovah" , but the "organisation" (spirit directed or otherwise 🙄). Is it a bit like those regimes, where everyone fears that midnight knock on the door? (I.e. being summoned by the elders?)
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  A BEARD PREDICTION FOR 2024

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. friends

  fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.

  many of the comments are hilarious.. .

  a beard prediction for 2024:.

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  Now that beards are legal, this place should do great: https://www.beardpapas.com/
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  New Educational Center in Brazil and New Support Center of JW's in New York

  by Drearyweather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recent news on the jw website:.

  town of fishkill, new york, u.s.a., gives approval for new support center of jehovah’s witnesses (jw.org).

  on october 27, 2023, site plan approval was granted for new construction at the bethel facilities in the town of fishkill, new york, u.s.a. this approval from the town planning board means that work on the new fishkill support center of jehovah’s witnesses can begin immediately.

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  What exactly is this building in Fishkill for? 50 odd acres across the road from Bethel, which recently downsized its staff. WT doesn't actually do or produce anything anymore; they don't print stuff for sale, nor do they have the farms. What are they building on such a large block? They're spending money like they still have some.

  Maintenance building? What are they maintaining? They don't have the giant printing factories anymore. Recreation centre? For whom? They're laying off Bethelites.

  As for the facility in Brazil: Why?
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  How's the 14,669 New Zealand brotherhood reacting to Steve's MIT talk?

  by was a new boy in

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  2. current

  the latest.

  stkirsch24 minutes ago.

  there is no question: the leaked data shows the vaccines have killed over 13 million people worldwide.

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  It looks like he's being tried for breaching confidentiality laws within the medical realm. We all despise "Mary" for what she did in the September Watchtower article in 1987, where she accessed medical files and ratted on someone who attended her Kingdom Hall. It looks like Barry Young broke the NZ equivalent of HIPAA.
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  Further education

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just saw on a video that there has been a change about further education.

  here is a screenshot of a letter that went to all elders.

  i am an elder but i don’t remember this one, perhaps it is only for some areas?.

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  NotFormer

  It doesn't matter what side you are on, on any issue, there will be trolls. JW trolls, ex-JW trolls, never were and never will be JW trolls. Heck, even most hobby discussions online are full of trolls! Just be careful, stay hopeful and just sit back and enjoy the ride 🚕👍😺
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  How's the 14,669 New Zealand brotherhood reacting to Steve's MIT talk?

  by was a new boy in

  1. social
  2. current

  the latest.

  stkirsch24 minutes ago.

  there is no question: the leaked data shows the vaccines have killed over 13 million people worldwide.

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  In case no-one realises it, New Zealand had an election in October and the party that was in government during the whole Covid thing is now in opposition.

  Talking about the Ardern government is old news. She resigned as PM a year or so out from the election, because she knew she would probably lose it, and presumably to give her party the chance to rebuild for it. They lost anyway. Not sure how much Labour's Covid policies contributed to the downfall, but I imagine they were a factor.
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  Broadcasts, Are they just a distraction?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the recent broad casts about not handing in time sheets, and then about beards, especially the beards, it seems so trivial, are those talks only released in order to distract the followers from the recent court case they lost on spain, from the csa cases, the kh sales and so on?.

  i reckon they're taking their lead from the media, distract and divide tactics..

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  NotFormer

  Vanderhoven7, you make a very good point. The major, gasp producing announcements from the people who claim to be God's earthly channel: a change in administrative paperwork and something about facial hair!

  I wonder what the next breathtaking announcement from the throne of Jehovah will be? 🙄
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  there is a spirit in various religions that confirms they are true to people

  by enoughisenough in

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  i just watched youtube warwick pimo -2 videos which i will link if you care to watch them for context.

  he shows clips of various people starting to get involved in various religions and they are all saying basically the same thing- a feeling coming over them and that is how they knew they had found the truth...very interesting!

  the first experiences are of jw, but other religions follow if you watch the 2 videos.

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  The Mormons trade on it. A warm fuzzy feeling about the Book of Mormon proves it's the truth, to them.
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  If AMG III would return now

  by Gorb in

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  2. friends

  if amg iii would return now to the congregation, he would be mad because of:.

  - rank & file and elders not reporting fs time, very recent an issue to bring someone in highest correction mode.

  - jw's with official beard permission .

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  NotFormer

  That letter to elders is raising suspicions. I'm waiting for more official looking leaks before I accept it as kosher.