going door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
Gordon, you have an enormous set of cojones! 😱 I could never do that!
I remember a bit more of the conversation. About the Lord's supper, I quoted Jesus ' command "This do in remembrance of me". The bloke said "And who was he talking to?" That's when I said what I said above. He made a beeline for the gate and left his wife holding the bag. The remaining dribs and drabs of conversation were with her.
So, yes, they are not the confident debaters they once were, in my recent experience.
it occurred to me that the wt, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them.
once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.. would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?.
(there are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the wt be considered a good corporate citizen).
It occurred to me that the WT, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them. Once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.
Would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?
(There are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the WT be considered a good corporate citizen)
in case you're unfamiliar with the acronym, an npc is a "non playable character" in a game.
typically, they are kind of a placeholder that do set things rather than being controlled by another player or any kind of ai to vary what they do.
they just follow a script.
"They could be like NPCs, in that you always knew where to find them (and how to get them to react)"
You could tell what a Baggins would say on any question without the bother of asking him
going door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
nowwhat?, yes 20 or 30 years ago, you could have a robust and, dare I say it, fun conversation with JWs at the door. As you say, those days seem to be long gone.
TonusOH, it's probably better if they don't. When I'm in the right frame of mind, I can be perfectly charming and engaging as a conversationalist. But I'm not always in that frame of mind. They've been around twice since our move, and neither of those times was right for me to be good company.
It's a little sad; they used to know what they believed and would defend it vigorously. It's hard to blame the R&F, the GB keeps changing everything so rapidly that it's hard to keep up with the belief du jour, I guess. 🙄
going door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
Going door to door with their "memorial" invitation. "So you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?" says I.
Them: "We can explain who is to partake".
Me: "All Jesus' followers". (I quote John 20:31) "All who believe in Jesus are his brothers".
Them: "It's been nice talking to you! Bye!"
Me: Bye, bye!
That's a condensed version of the conversation. The lady commented that I seem to know a lot about them. I commented that I've known a JW or two over the years, but I'm not what she'd call an apostate; I've never even set foot in the door of a Kingdom Hall.
But I do seem to recall that outsiders who are vigorous enough opposers are tarred with the same brush as "apostates". Perhaps word will circulate not to visit me anymore. (Although that may constitute a breach of some data protection/privacy Act?)
Anyway, I was arguably nicer this time, although I still wasn't in a perfect space for such a conversation.
Hopefully Vidiot approves... 😏
if you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.
cj chap.
3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.
nicolaou: "Speak for yourself, I'm a proud apostate."
You're not an apostate, you're a very naughty boy! 🤣
add bookmark.
#1. i have to start off this post by saying i am not intending to insult or offend.
these are just our observations over our entire lives in the org.
I agree with Phizzy about using their terminology; I don't. I refer to JWs, the WT or the GB (being an outsider, it was never da Troof to me!) I don't use their pejorative term "Christendom" when talking about other churches, I say mainstream Christianity (they qualify under that umbrella anyway, so I never understood the point of that). I say ex or former JWs instead of apostates. There's probably an entire thread on WT jargonese used to condition the thinking of the PIMIs. Once you're out, not in, you need to stop using their dictionary and their learned lines from their playbook.
if you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.
cj chap.
3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.
When you call yourself it, it's a badge of honour. When someone else calls you it, it's an insult.
Besides, the people on here aren't apostates. That's the Watchtower's designation, and like everything else of theirs, it's wrong. Watchtower definitions don't carry any weight here.
i used to attend the meetings and was baptized about 30 years ago but i haven't gone to the meetings or associated with any one i new from the congregation for around 15 - 20 years.
i want to get back to studying but i am not ready to go to any meetings.
other than the watchtower and awake what book is used these days for people just starting to study with jehovah's witnesses?.
I wouldn't say this is an anti JW forum. It just isn't very pro-Watchtower.
If you go back to a Kingdom Hall, you're probably going to be shocked at how much has changed in 15 to 20 years. Don't let anyone know that you have been on this forum, if you want to start off on the right foot, should you choose to go back down that path.
on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
While I'll cheerfully categorise them as callous and ruthless, "murderous" isn't an adjective that immediately springs to mind. Even those at the top who have been disgraced have generally lived out a long life.
But perhaps things are changing... 😮
