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  Anyone Have a Photo of The Current 9 Member Governing Body?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  governing body members.

  kenneth eugene cook, jr. (2018).

  gage fleegle (2023).

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  NotFormer

  A photo of the Banana Splits being brought to order at a meeting might be good enough. Fleegle wields the gavel:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4813137241440256/fleegle-calls-gb-meeting-order
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

  by redsetter2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

  the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

  i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

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  LaFrancia: "According to Furuli, only 11 of the 45 sins currently the subject of judicial committees (today they are just called committees) are based on the Bible."

  Is there a list of these 45 sins available out there somewhere? It would help my understanding of these matters immensely if there is! A list of the 11 actually biblical sins would be helpful too.
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  GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!

  the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.

  summary: .

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot: "...could they be, for all intents and purposes, beta-testing on offenders like the WTS (justifiably), to see how effective it’ll be on worse groups like, say, Scientology?"

  You mean that they're saying to the WT: "You're not the ultimate badass religion you think you are, we're just using you for training purposes (and target practice)!"?
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  2024 What's Afoot with World Religions?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the parliament of the world's religions, member of the united religions initiative, has on their website a focus24 page, they call this year the year of democracy.. apparently an unusually large proportion of the world's countries are holding national elections this year, it's certainly the case here in ireland.

  this somehow is the focus of their mission, it reads well, you know peace, love and justice etc.

  i am wondering if the the watchtower society is a part of this movement, seeing as they have the 501c3 agreement they are also a state church, therefore bound to follow the states laws and regulations for fear of fines or loss of the 501c3 religious charity status, loss of tax exemption etc.. if so, we could be seeing many more changes this year.. does anyone have more detailed info on what rules and regulations 501c3 religious charities have to comply with?

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  NotFormer

  Does any other country, similarly to the US system, allow tax deductibility for donations to churches in their own right*?

  *As opposed to the charitable organisations that those churches may be operating at arm's length.

  Edited to add: Can corporations donate to churches and get a tax deduction, or are only donations by individuals tax deductible?
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  TV Show About A Man Escaping Blood Transfusions

  by NotFormer in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i found this on youtube:.

  https://youtu.be/aoof0ug4pbc?si=dki3kgfcmtv_kggw.

  does anyone remember it?

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  NotFormer

  I found this on YouTube:

  https://youtu.be/Aoof0ug4Pbc?si=dki3KGFcMtV_kGGW

  Does anyone remember it? If so do you remember if it sparked any discussion among JWs, back in the day?
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  2024 What's Afoot with World Religions?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the parliament of the world's religions, member of the united religions initiative, has on their website a focus24 page, they call this year the year of democracy.. apparently an unusually large proportion of the world's countries are holding national elections this year, it's certainly the case here in ireland.

  this somehow is the focus of their mission, it reads well, you know peace, love and justice etc.

  i am wondering if the the watchtower society is a part of this movement, seeing as they have the 501c3 agreement they are also a state church, therefore bound to follow the states laws and regulations for fear of fines or loss of the 501c3 religious charity status, loss of tax exemption etc.. if so, we could be seeing many more changes this year.. does anyone have more detailed info on what rules and regulations 501c3 religious charities have to comply with?

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  NotFormer

  As far as I know, the USA is fairly unique* in that they allow tax deductions for donations to churches. Where I live, you only get tax deductions if you donate to a properly registered charity that actually does charitable stuff, not simply for donations to the church you attend. So references to the WT's charitable status don't really resonate here.

  Churches might have a side gig, like a food bank, that does have tax deductible status. Maybe the WT has something similar, like an emergency relief fund to which JWs can donate, but I can't see them emphasising something like that over donations directly meant for Bethel to use however it likes.

  * Well, it's certainly different from here. I haven't looked into at length. I am aware that some European countries do stuff like the Norway thing which was pulled out from under the WT. Not sure if that's the same thing, though.
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  s-395 Adjustments-to-handling-serious-wrongdoing-in-the-congregation

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this was posted on jw leaks.. my truth's | dad seeking truth.

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot: "Ironic that the WT leadership got so scared of “apostasy” that over the decades, they dialed disfellowshipping up to eleven across the entire spectrum of, thus driving folks to apostasy who would otherwise have never even remotely considered it."

  Identifying paradoxes within their approaches seems never to have been their strong point.

  Jazzbo: "The Appeal Committee change is significant. I used to sit on an Appeal Committee and the rule was that the person appealing had to be repentant at the time they were being disfellowshipped. If they were only repentant when meeting with the Appeal Committee that wasn't good enough."

  The terror had to be real, and palpable, all through the process? So maybe they are discovering a small part of the quality of mercy. Sad that they have done so, not because they believe that God is watching, but they now know that governments are.

  Many believe that Tony Morris was holding all this reform back. If that was the case, how long ago could these changes have happened if he was holding them back?

  The Norway thing is relatively new; would the disfellowshipment and shunning rules have changed without that happening?
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  If the org. Is being advised by consultants, is a name change in the works?

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let's be honest, there's a stigma to the name jehovah's witness.

  if they are going more mainstream.

  i imagine the first recommendation was a name change.

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  "Until this organization becomes more Christ like,,, it never deserves to have anything ""Christ"" in its name."

  Yes, they've never shown any signs of liking or respecting Jesus much. Not since Rutherford, at least.
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  If the org. Is being advised by consultants, is a name change in the works?

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let's be honest, there's a stigma to the name jehovah's witness.

  if they are going more mainstream.

  i imagine the first recommendation was a name change.

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  Ron.W.: "Could they call themselves 'The Truth'...??"

  How about: "Struth"?
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  Will recent dress-code changes affect the WTS negatively?

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a span of a few months time, we have had many unexpected changes announced by the jw organization.

  some here have expressed the belief that a great number of witnesses will leave the religion.

  in fact, there is a great probability the opposite will be true.. yeah, ancient hardliners will have a hard time assimilating these changes, but the younger generation will likely welcome these changes.

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot: "Problem is, after a lifetime hearing everything from WTHQ as marching orders, the prospect of anything being genuinely optional is hard for them to wrap their heads around."

  After decades in an organisation where many messages are coded to mean something other than what it would mean in plain English, eg. "conscience issue", the R&F JWs are probably trying to find the hidden code: "What are they actually commanding us to do here?"