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  Moving on in a new chapter

  by redsetter2 in

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  2. experiences

  moving on is the hardest thing anyone has to cope with.. i have officially left the org.

  and now it feels my family have been waiting to do this for a long time, officially shunning me, even though they were practically doing this whilst i was still in.. it feels like i've accomplished a victory and at the same time i feel guilty i was tangled up in communication with someone who "hid who they were" claiming to leak information from bethel.

  i got the call from the man who i thought i worked with.

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  NotFormer

  I seem to remember in a discussion years ago that even mentioning that there were hidden images and messages in WT literature would get you disfellowshipped.

  It's possible that during the 80s, the GB's grip on the art department was not all that strong. It's always puzzled me that the perpetrators of that hoax weren't tracked down and purged, Ray Franz style.

  It may be related to the purported struggle between the writing and service departments. Unfortunately, Jaracz won that one and weaponised the CSA cover-ups*.

  *As always, the source is snippets I've read here.
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  1,500 Days since Stephen Lett said this:

  by Chevelle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "so the events unfolding around us are making clearer than ever that we’re living in the final part of the last days.

  undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days.

  shortly before the last day of the last days.

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  NotFormer

  markweatherill, in the WT's defence, they made that statement on April the 1st. They might have had their fingers crossed, too. 😱

  Are JWs allowed to cross their fingers 🤞? How do you make the sign of a torture stake? 🤔
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  Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.

  by greenhornet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.

  imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .

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  NotFormer

  Ron.W., funnily enough, his name was actually Ron!
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  Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.

  by greenhornet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.

  imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .

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  NotFormer

  Come to think of it, is "We're out in field service" something you now can't say in field service? 🤔
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  NotFormer

  Correct Mike, they were making it all up as they went along.
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  The org. Came out with a Christmas song!!!!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  holy nativity batman!

  on jw broadcasting.

  final song for this year's convention.

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  NotFormer

  That may be so, Rattigan, but it's more fun when worded our way...
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  NotFormer

  Personally, I don't think that falling asleep during GB meetings is all that unusual for most GB members*. I also don't believe for a minute that the apologists on Quora have any inside information on the AM3 situation, anymore than we do. I was just amused to see them so confidently declaring the solution to one of the WT'S most tightly guarded recent secrets. And they did actually say "mentally diseased apostates". 🙄 They obviously read and memorise their lines well.

  *They're old men; it happens.
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  NotFormer

  The apologists on Quora have answered the question and told the mentally diseased apostates (yes, they said that) to go away: "There's nothing to see here!".

  Apparently Tony is medically retired due to, wait for it: Narcolepsy! That's right folks, Tony was always falling asleep in GB meetings! 🙄

  No wonder the GB told the JW rumour mill to shut up! It's a pity that the R&F aren't following orders the way they used to.
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  The org. Came out with a Christmas song!!!!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  holy nativity batman!

  on jw broadcasting.

  final song for this year's convention.

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  NotFormer

  I was walking through Beth-el one day,

  In the merry, merry month of May,

  I was taken by surprise,

  By the Virgin Mary's eyes,

  In an icon that they had displayed.

  I wonder if they'll ever start talking about Mary. It's Catholicism that they always compare themselves to.
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  Why does it matter whether or not Armageddon is near?

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why does it matter whether or not the end of the world ( (armageddon) is near?

  if it was next week, next year, next decade, next century?

  what is to be gained by knowing how close or far it is?

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  NotFormer

  Ron.W. "ps. Here we have a 'newly reinstated' person starting threads on an apostate web site - anyone know what cong the poster is from so we can report them to their congregation elders for loving scriptural correction/wt brainwashing??"

  It's a nice idea, but she already suffers Stockholm Syndrome; she was out of their clutches but voluntarily chose to submit herself to their rule. She's suffering enough already.

  Every WT apologist that comes here breaks the WT rules by doing so. So, what do they actually believe: that Jehovah can't see what they're doing? That the rules of the GB aren't ultimately Jehovah's rules?

  Cognitive dissonance is weird.

  Personally, I think she's struggling with a lot of issues and this is her outlet. I don't see any harm in that, except perhaps for the insults against people who try to reason with her. It's not like insults from apologists aren't a dime a dozen. If she thinks she's making an impact on the GB's behalf, she's mistaken.