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  Lithuania Set to Mirror Norway's Approach on Jehovah's Witnesses

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it is proposed to the seimas not to grant state recognition to the religious community of jehovah's witnesses.

  lithuania05/05/2024 09:30. jehovah's witnesses; baptism associative / e. ovcharenko / bns photo.. it is proposed to the seimas to refuse to grant state recognition to the lithuanian jehovah's witnesses religious community.. community representatives told bns that they hope that parliamentarians, taking into account the practice of the european court of human rights, will make a different decision.. the draft resolution registered by the chairman of the human rights committee of the seimas, tomas vytautas raskevičius, states that this community does not meet the requirements of the constitution and the law, that its education and rites do not conflict with laws and decency.. "the ministry of justice has determined that the religious teaching of this community is possibly not compatible with the constitution of our country in two aspects.

  the first is that jehovah's witnesses oppose blood transfusions due to certain aspects related to health care (...).

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  NotFormer

  JWs are seeking to be registered as a religion in Lithuania, if I understand this correctly. The article mentions blood and military service. Norway deregistered the JWs over the shunning issue. Maybe I'm being overly nitpicky, but how does one mirror the other? 🤔
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  NotFormer

  jehovaxx, No, that explanation doesn't hold water. The speculation on Quora is just loyal JWs trying to obscure the real issue: did he jump, or was he pushed?
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  Need help identifying a book

  by oncebitten in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all.. i could use some help identifying the title of a wt book that i read back in the early 90's.

  it was an older book when i read it.

  i wish that i could recall more than i do.

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  NotFormer

  I said this: "The trouble with downvoting is that it doesn't come with any explanation as to why. Hopefully someone just clicked the wrong button in this case. 😳"

  And got a downvote! 😸 I think someone's having a lend...

  Slimboyfat got a downvote too. The Phantom Downvoter has struck again! 😳
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  Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .

  “how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!

  besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.

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  NotFormer

  Australia. Tamworth is within a few hours drive away. 😸
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  Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .

  “how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!

  besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.

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  NotFormer

  They still don't like us very much, Jan! 😳😱
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  Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .

  “how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!

  besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.

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  NotFormer

  You were very sensible regarding the Vax. I was in and out of hospital and was basically "forced" (heavily leaned upon) to take it, if I wanted continued access to the medical system.
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  Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .

  “how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!

  besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.

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  NotFormer

  The dubs sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind, Bribie. I have zero sympathy for the way they were treated back then. They have the unique distinction to have been the only religion banned by the Australian government. Their behaviour at the time was appalling.

  The current government's behaviour doesn't justify the provocative and defamatory ranting of the Australian JWs during the war era.

  The point is, the Dubs have changed their tone somewhat. You don't see Sydney Bethel denouncing the government over the detainee issue, in this day and age.
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  Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .

  “how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!

  besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.

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  NotFormer

  I wonder if Rutherford's bombastic, polemical approach was basically a marketing ploy. Although that style was retained for a while after his death. The JWs were actually banned by the Australian government in 1943, a year after Rutherford's death. The official reason is that they were a security risk (they owned radio stations back then, and some of the news reports were a bit too generous with information regarding ship deployments, etc.), but they were basically being a pain in the arse, denouncing everybody (Catholic bishops by name, the government). The government eventually got pissed off and banned them.

  Interestingly, they weren't unbanned by their usual appeal to freedom of religion. The government didn't think that Section 116 of the Constitution applied. They allowed them to be unbanned because they believed that their application of the Security Act was overzealous.
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  How does the Govering Body get enlightenment?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the earliest of times of the catholic church's ecumenical councils were used to make major changes to its doctrinal direction.

  decisions were made by bishops, they were ratified by the pope ... and it was done.

  and the laity had to accepted them or not.. and while splinter catholic religions accepted most of these councils, non-trinitarian faiths which developed latter (of which jehovah's witnesses are apart) did not.

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  NotFormer

  The two class system isn't about the 144,000 and everyone else, any more. There are two classes: the GB and everyone else. 🙄
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  Need help identifying a book

  by oncebitten in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all.. i could use some help identifying the title of a wt book that i read back in the early 90's.

  it was an older book when i read it.

  i wish that i could recall more than i do.

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  NotFormer

  The trouble with downvoting is that it doesn't come with any explanation as to why. Hopefully someone just clicked the wrong button in this case. 😳