Posts by NotFormer

I pointed out in another thread that something someone does for the first time may be significant. This is apparently the first time they've delayed a Watchtower release. It's hardly insignificant and unworthy of discussion.

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2024

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | september 2024. enjoy the greater happiness that comes from giving.

9 though we are imperfect humans, we can imitate jehovah’s generous use of power.

we cannot literally impart strength, or energy, to others.

NotFormer

"The term for hospitality is used for internal relationships rather than external."

Which totally nullifies their Greek definition of the word for hospitality. Their distortion of scripture to justify their insularity is reprehensible. They don't understand the first thing about The Golden Rule 😑

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Famous current and former Jehovah's Witnesses

by Balaamsass2 in

it's fluff clickbait...but...what other famous people are current or ex-jws?.

famous people you didn't know were jehovah's witnesses.

story by stars insider.

NotFormer

Was Micky Spillane one?

Cliff Richard supposedly had JW family and showed a bit of interest at one stage.

Reasons Sir Cliff Richard never became a JW (jehovahs-witness.com)

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SEPTEMBER 2024 Study Watchtower - Warnings for JW's!

by BoogerMan in

what warnings are the cult giving the "sheeple?".

in the study article on page 20 - "are you heeding the warnings?

", jw's are threatened what their fate will be if they don't support the elite, "anointed" jw's, the 33 degree aka, the self-appointed gibbering body - they will be toast very soon:.

NotFormer

Matthew 25:39 (NIV) "When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’"

Perhaps they are getting the JWs used to the idea of visiting the GB (the self-styled brothers of Jesus) in prison.

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Coming soon: Governing Body Update #4

by ukpimo in

the upcoming governing body update, set to be released on friday this week, will feature a bearded samuel herd.. jwtalk website revealed the leak, so this thread will be used to speculate the content of the update and discuss the actual contents after its release..

NotFormer

blondie: "I heard before beard approval..."

Beard Approval is a great term and a great way to mark the JW calendar. Perhaps they can replace B.C.E and C.E with B.B.A. and A.B.A. 👍👌

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My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.

some highlights: .

1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).

NotFormer

They're paying homage to the sun god at Sunday meetings. And to the Norse god Tyr on Tuesday nights.

But Heaven forbid that they celebrate a holiday with Christ's name in it! 🙄

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Who Are the "Other Sheep" and Jesus "Brothers" ?

by Sea Breeze in

watchtower plays lots of games with definitions.

once they change a definition then they have a false assumption to build their deception on.

then they repeat the new definition and use its new meaning thousands of times to reinforce it.

NotFormer

I remember reading "anti-cult" literature in the 70s (maybe 80s - probably Dave Hunt) that quoted Russell, at the end of the nineteenth century, saying something along the lines of the dissolved into gases thing. Also that he seemed to deny a physical resurrection - that what the disciples saw was some kind of spirit creature with a fake body created and destroyed at each appearance (memory is foggy; quote might not be exact).

But since then I've learned to discount anything uttered in the past by even the founder* (not that I consider Russell the founder of the JWs: IMO, that distinction belongs to Rutherford). True authority lies in whatever is written in the latest Watchtower**. And nothing against a physical resurrection has been assumed by the WT since those ravings of Russell. They've never repudiated that view, AFAIK, but they've never ratified it either (again, AFAIK).

*In another thread I've discussed his 1914 date. That matters, IMO, because it is still foundational to JW teachings today.***

** I'm curious to see what is in the August Watchtower. Not that that is what actually matters. It's what they may have had to change that matters.

*** New light notwithstanding 😳

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2024

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | september 2024. enjoy the greater happiness that comes from giving.

9 though we are imperfect humans, we can imitate jehovah’s generous use of power.

we cannot literally impart strength, or energy, to others.

NotFormer

In the article Become Doers of the Word:

"5 Most of Jehovah’s people lead very busy lives. We spend a great amount of time caring for our various Scriptural responsibilities. For instance, most of us work secularly to provide for ourselves and for our families. (1 Tim. 5:8) Many Christians look after sick or elderly relatives. And all of us need to care for our own health, which takes time. In addition to these responsibilities, we have assignments in the congregation. A key responsibility is to have a zealous share in the preaching work. With all the obligations that you personally have, how can you find the time to read the Bible regularly, meditate on what you read, and apply what it says"

Here they're saying that helping people is a nice idea, but don't let it get in the way of free labour for the WT and preaching. Instead of providing the practical help James had in mind when he said to be "doers of the word", they want you to preach. IOW, they encourage the parsimonious "be filled/be clothed" spirit of those James is condemning.

Interesting how the WT in one article encourages helping people and in the same WT says "don't get carried away with helping people".

WT talking out of both sides of their mouth? Colour me shocked! 😮

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Coming soon: Governing Body Update #4

by ukpimo in

the upcoming governing body update, set to be released on friday this week, will feature a bearded samuel herd.. jwtalk website revealed the leak, so this thread will be used to speculate the content of the update and discuss the actual contents after its release..

NotFormer

"If Watchtower is reading this, get your act together and order a shutdown of the JWTalk forum, as this link and code leaked from there."

Headquarters may want this sort of thing to leak in order to identify the leakers. So, allowing JW talk to continue to exist may be in the interests of the GB, ultimately*.

Besides, I'd be one of the last people to be in favour of a totalitarian shutdown of probably the only outlet where the little people, the cogs in the machine, can vent about stuff and feel a bit special by chatting with the worldwide brotherhood.

* It makes you think, though. 🤔 I wonder if the site maintainer ever gets enquiries from Bethel about identities and sources?