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  Because it's possible

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in holland we say "not because it is requierd, but because it's possible.

  before we shaved, and now we let it grow.

  pinky ring, too!.

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  NotFormer

  Balaamsass2 That photo of Franz is interesting and possibly instructive. Even though he's wearing a flannelette* shirt, he's still wearing a tie**. Even in JW land, I don't see how that made it alright! Rules for thee, but not for me, perhaps? I bet that he wasn't wearing jeans with that shirt. Probably a pair of trousers with a crease so sharp you could cut yourself on it!

  *In Australia, they're made from cotton, not wool, so we don't call them flannel shirts***.

  ** It doesn't excuse anything: it still looks ridiculous!

  ***People who wore those shirts used to be called "Westies" (for the lower-class Western suburbs of Sydney: Penrith, Mt. Druitt, etc.). Now the term is "Bogan".
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  Because it's possible

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in holland we say "not because it is requierd, but because it's possible.

  before we shaved, and now we let it grow.

  pinky ring, too!.

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  NotFormer

  "Because I can" is probably the Anglosphere's equivalent. Sam Herd is pushing the envelope here. Just because he can, doesn't mean he should!
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  My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.

  some highlights: .

  1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).

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  NotFormer

  "Isn’t the point of discussion that it was delayed at all ?"

  I pointed out in another thread that something someone does for the first time may be significant. This is apparently the first time they've delayed a Watchtower release. It's hardly insignificant and unworthy of discussion.
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2024

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | september 2024. enjoy the greater happiness that comes from giving.

  9 though we are imperfect humans, we can imitate jehovah’s generous use of power.

  we cannot literally impart strength, or energy, to others.

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  NotFormer

  "The term for hospitality is used for internal relationships rather than external."

  Which totally nullifies their Greek definition of the word for hospitality. Their distortion of scripture to justify their insularity is reprehensible. They don't understand the first thing about The Golden Rule 😑
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  Famous current and former Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  it's fluff clickbait...but...what other famous people are current or ex-jws?.

  famous people you didn't know were jehovah's witnesses.

  story by stars insider.

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  NotFormer

  Was Micky Spillane one?

  Cliff Richard supposedly had JW family and showed a bit of interest at one stage.

  Reasons Sir Cliff Richard never became a JW (jehovahs-witness.com)
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  SEPTEMBER 2024 Study Watchtower - Warnings for JW's!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what warnings are the cult giving the "sheeple?".

  in the study article on page 20 - "are you heeding the warnings?

  ", jw's are threatened what their fate will be if they don't support the elite, "anointed" jw's, the 33 degree aka, the self-appointed gibbering body - they will be toast very soon:.

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  NotFormer

  Matthew 25:39 (NIV) "When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

  40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’"

  Perhaps they are getting the JWs used to the idea of visiting the GB (the self-styled brothers of Jesus) in prison.
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  Coming soon: Governing Body Update #4

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the upcoming governing body update, set to be released on friday this week, will feature a bearded samuel herd.. jwtalk website revealed the leak, so this thread will be used to speculate the content of the update and discuss the actual contents after its release..

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  NotFormer

  blondie: "I heard before beard approval..."

  Beard Approval is a great term and a great way to mark the JW calendar. Perhaps they can replace B.C.E and C.E with B.B.A. and A.B.A. 👍👌
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  My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.

  some highlights: .

  1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).

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  NotFormer

  They're paying homage to the sun god at Sunday meetings. And to the Norse god Tyr on Tuesday nights.

  But Heaven forbid that they celebrate a holiday with Christ's name in it! 🙄
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  Who Are the "Other Sheep" and Jesus "Brothers" ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower plays lots of games with definitions.

  once they change a definition then they have a false assumption to build their deception on.

  then they repeat the new definition and use its new meaning thousands of times to reinforce it.

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  NotFormer

  I remember reading "anti-cult" literature in the 70s (maybe 80s - probably Dave Hunt) that quoted Russell, at the end of the nineteenth century, saying something along the lines of the dissolved into gases thing. Also that he seemed to deny a physical resurrection - that what the disciples saw was some kind of spirit creature with a fake body created and destroyed at each appearance (memory is foggy; quote might not be exact).

  But since then I've learned to discount anything uttered in the past by even the founder* (not that I consider Russell the founder of the JWs: IMO, that distinction belongs to Rutherford). True authority lies in whatever is written in the latest Watchtower**. And nothing against a physical resurrection has been assumed by the WT since those ravings of Russell. They've never repudiated that view, AFAIK, but they've never ratified it either (again, AFAIK).

  *In another thread I've discussed his 1914 date. That matters, IMO, because it is still foundational to JW teachings today.***

  ** I'm curious to see what is in the August Watchtower. Not that that is what actually matters. It's what they may have had to change that matters.

  *** New light notwithstanding 😳
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2024

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | september 2024. enjoy the greater happiness that comes from giving.

  9 though we are imperfect humans, we can imitate jehovah’s generous use of power.

  we cannot literally impart strength, or energy, to others.

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  NotFormer

  In the article Become Doers of the Word:

  "5 Most of Jehovah’s people lead very busy lives. We spend a great amount of time caring for our various Scriptural responsibilities. For instance, most of us work secularly to provide for ourselves and for our families. (1 Tim. 5:8) Many Christians look after sick or elderly relatives. And all of us need to care for our own health, which takes time. In addition to these responsibilities, we have assignments in the congregation. A key responsibility is to have a zealous share in the preaching work. With all the obligations that you personally have, how can you find the time to read the Bible regularly, meditate on what you read, and apply what it says"

  Here they're saying that helping people is a nice idea, but don't let it get in the way of free labour for the WT and preaching. Instead of providing the practical help James had in mind when he said to be "doers of the word", they want you to preach. IOW, they encourage the parsimonious "be filled/be clothed" spirit of those James is condemning.

  Interesting how the WT in one article encourages helping people and in the same WT says "don't get carried away with helping people".

  WT talking out of both sides of their mouth? Colour me shocked! 😮