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  2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .

  https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .

  leopold.

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  "Wt has released article 9 languages but not in english?"

  "They didn't release them officially... After most of the languages are posted, then will they release the magazine by creating its entry on the main jw.org web site."

  So, no theory that the changes are only affecting certain markets but not most countries? A pity for the conspiracy theorists among us. Such a situation would undoubtedly see the above release being distributed in Norwegian and possibly Japanese.

  As it is, it's obvious that the WT is under pressure over disfellowshipping rules. But when you read between the lines and see what they are still doing and leaving unaddressed, they haven't changed a thing, in any practical sense.

  These changes were already pretty well known months ago. Now that they are being officially announced in the WT, does that mean that the secret elders ' manual will now be amended to reflect the changes? When we were having this discussion months ago, an amended version of the manual came out, but it did not echo these changes.
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  BBC poor grammar - but FUNNY!

  by BoogerMan in

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  "hamburg police shoot man with axe ahead of euros match.

  " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news.

  why don't german police just use guns?.

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  Vidiot, I looked that one up, it was so badly phrased. The embassy didn't do Jack, it was Serbian police that shot the guy. Can journalists even journal any more?

  And the poor crossbow! 😭😞
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  2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .

  https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .

  leopold.

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  NotFormer

  "Judicial" catches them red-handed, taking the law into their own hands. Especially when they make in-house decisions on criminal matters, namely CSA cases.

  But the other aspect is that it describes a parallel legal system that punishes people for "crimes" that are often seen as innocuous by governments.

  Committee of Elders doesn't sound any kinder to my ear, but if they tried something different like "Committee of Investigation" or something similar, it would still have that fake legal ring to it.

  Of course, they could drop the pretense of being God's police and simply have a chat with someone who stumbles and ask them to try not to do it again.

  But the ones at the top love having a say in the minutiae of the day to day lives of the congregants. This is the system created by Rutherford, Knorr and weaponised by Jaracz. It's a bed that the current GB have to lie in.

  You'll note that their instinct is not to wind back the harsh system, it is to disguise it and try to hide it from the eyes of prying governments.
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  2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .

  https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .

  leopold.

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  NotFormer

  So this is the big August reveal. Try to pretend that marking happens spontaneously at the congregation level and has nothing to do with the GB, or their servants, the elders. 🙄😑
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  2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .

  https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .

  leopold.

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  NotFormer

  So it's more decoding of the secret code. Elders don't mark people any more (probably because doing that leaves a trail leading to Bethel, is against various privacy laws and could lead to lawsuits).

  WT is at its heart a lover of control and is not going to relax that control in any meaningful manner. So the new "arrangement" is to have the R&F do the marking. How exactly do they decide to do that? Is there a congregational meeting where the congregation meets to discuss the matter as set out in Matthew 18?

  I'm hazarding a guess that the answer is no. That the elders still decide on marking and somehow communicate their will in a way that doesn't leave a paper trail that is usable in court.

  PIMOs, how is this sleight of hand performed in this day and age?
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  What is that?

  by Achille in

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  Judicial Committee (justice) boner?
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  Who is this Guy?

  by Slidin Fast in

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  the ra is underway and there is a common thread through the first day.

  they have a "presenter" who comes across as an educated historian handling early bible fragments and translations as if he knows what he's doing.

  the impression given is that he is an unassailable font of all knowledge, with his rich scottish accent he prints himself as across as professor gravitas.. i find this disturbing, we have no idea who he is or what if any his qualifications are to speak such with authority.

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  Slidin Fast, that's interesting. The R&F, not tertiary educated, for the most part, will probably believe that they are privy to great insights by some great scholar. The bottom line is, is he making any particularly profound points?

  Is he doing a sort of "show and tell" of manuscript fragments*? What point is he making? That the NWT is the bestest translation evaaaah? 🙄

  Do they make these convention talks available as videos later?

  Would he be the Andy Schofield of FA's last post?

  * They would be facsimiles; not even the WT could afford real manuscripts.
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  JWs obtaining fake degrees from a US institution to teach English as a foreign language

  by truthseeker in

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  teaching english as a foreign language in asian countries is quite popular for those looking to travel and explore and make some money.

  if you have the tefl qualification you're pretty much good to go and don't need a degree.i don't know how lucrative these overseas jobs are but i do know one jw from my congregation in england who decided to move to the caribbean and teach english as a foreign language.

  i'm not knocking this individual.

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  ndcenterdiplomas, novelty fake diplomas? How novel! 😮 The website says not to be used as anything but a joke, but I doubt that every customer will follow that rule.

  Decades ago there was a webpage something like "X* Reasons why you may Watch too much Iron Chef*". One of the points was that you have a Rosanjin Scholar diploma on your wall. 😸

  * I don't remember the actual number.

  ** Original Japanese (but dubbed) version
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  Italy goes after Protestant religions re taxes due

  by blondie in

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  https://cne.news/article/4320-small-church-in-rome-goes-to-the-big-court-in-strasbourg-to-find-justice?push=null .

  the evangelical church in rome will move to strasbourg to seek justice from the european court on human rights (ecthr) to eliminate the huge tax burden.

  in the meantime, protestants all over the world are amazed by what is happening in italy..

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  "but do you know why central bethel relieved all the italian leaders of rome and moved to bologna?"

  Knowing American slang as I do, I have to confess to finding this way more amusing than I should. 😸 andr, I apologise for my peurility. 🥴
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  Italy goes after Protestant religions re taxes due

  by blondie in

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  https://cne.news/article/4320-small-church-in-rome-goes-to-the-big-court-in-strasbourg-to-find-justice?push=null .

  the evangelical church in rome will move to strasbourg to seek justice from the european court on human rights (ecthr) to eliminate the huge tax burden.

  in the meantime, protestants all over the world are amazed by what is happening in italy..

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  'italy isn't about "behaving"'

  From the Yes Minister episode The Writing on the Wall, concerning a European I'd card:

  Minister: How will the other countries feel about identity papers? Won't they resist too?

  Sir Humphrey: The Germans will love it, the French will ignore it, and the Italians and the Irish will be too chaotic to enforce it. Only the British will resent it.

  https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view_episode_scripts.php?tv-show=yes-minister-1980&episode=s01e05