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mrbunyrabit
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But Satan DIDNT lie!???
by mrbunyrabit inwhy does the bible portray satan as this big liar, and that he is the father of the lie when he didn't lie?.
genesis 3:4-5.
4 then the serpent said to the woman, you will not surely die.
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But Satan DIDNT lie!???
by mrbunyrabit inwhy does the bible portray satan as this big liar, and that he is the father of the lie when he didn't lie?.
genesis 3:4-5.
4 then the serpent said to the woman, you will not surely die.
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mrbunyrabit
Damn, you guys made some Awesome points (Hormones in angels, god punishing children for the fathers sins, god interfering in earthly matters)!!!
" Pretending to imply it is something else doesn't change the fact that it's still a lie."
Good point.
the thing is with this statement " The lie is an implied lie" is (as AndDontCallMeShirley said) that a truth can't turn into a lie.
The reason however, why you told that truth can differ (to mean good or to mean bad by telling it) non the less a truth is a truth and a lie is a lie. There's no way around that one.
(Seraphim23 Reminds me of this)
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But Satan DIDNT lie!???
by mrbunyrabit inwhy does the bible portray satan as this big liar, and that he is the father of the lie when he didn't lie?.
genesis 3:4-5.
4 then the serpent said to the woman, you will not surely die.
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mrbunyrabit
@Comatose Interesting......
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But Satan DIDNT lie!???
by mrbunyrabit inwhy does the bible portray satan as this big liar, and that he is the father of the lie when he didn't lie?.
genesis 3:4-5.
4 then the serpent said to the woman, you will not surely die.
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mrbunyrabit
@AndDontCallMeShirley Yea I see my wording sucked a bit in that last comment.
No im supporting my own comment. Reading the account, I can't find Satan a Liar. And I can't see how this can or could stand in Any court.
John 8:44
New International Version (NIV)
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
I cannot find any truth in this statement given the above account.
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But Satan DIDNT lie!???
by mrbunyrabit inwhy does the bible portray satan as this big liar, and that he is the father of the lie when he didn't lie?.
genesis 3:4-5.
4 then the serpent said to the woman, you will not surely die.
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mrbunyrabit
uhhhhhhh (Face palm) And some people defend this..... "No! He IS A LIAR!"
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But Satan DIDNT lie!???
by mrbunyrabit inwhy does the bible portray satan as this big liar, and that he is the father of the lie when he didn't lie?.
genesis 3:4-5.
4 then the serpent said to the woman, you will not surely die.
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mrbunyrabit
Why does the bible portray Satan as this big liar, and that he is the father of the lie when he didn't lie?
(what? how now?)Genesis 3:4-5
4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
So what Satan said was
1. You will become like God
2. Knowing good and evil
3. Your eyes will be opened
4. You surely will not die
So what then happened? Genesis 3: 22
22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”
Sooooo
1. Men DID become like God
2. Men DID get to know good and evil
3. Their eyes DID open
4 They could have eaten from the tree of life and live forever
Point number 4 I would defend as follow.
I cannot say that if a snake bites you, that you will SURELY DIE. No... you will die if you dont get medical help.
So, Adam and eve could have lived forever if they have then eaten from the tree of life, but God stopped them from eating of it. So technically they Would NOT have died. (with or without Gods help)
If Satan said, "No, God said it was okay to eat from that tree" then yes,he would have lied, but he did nothing of the sort!!
HOW THEN is he a lair??!!!
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What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!
by megaflower in"we should be mindful".
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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mrbunyrabit
"They didnt know it back then"
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What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!
by megaflower in"we should be mindful".
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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mrbunyrabit
"Im so proud of you"
Of what? answering? Reaaaaly?
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If you are fader, how do you handle assignments etc.
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mrbunyrabit
Yea, for all those who are still in, just accepting that you are not doing the things you do because you believe it, but only because its something to do, and its not like you are killing some one... Just accepting it as a way of life, Lauging at the stupid things, and taking up the life lessons you learn inside to improve your own life, and that of the people around you. No one ever died because they had a self sacrificing spirit.... Oh... Wait.... ( haha but you know what i mean)
We are all gona get old and crazy some day... Might as well start with the crazy now...
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JW Argument: Jehovah is delaying Armageddon as he wants as many people as possible to be saved!!!
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mrbunyrabit
And not only that.
When Jw's use that argument that jehova is waiting, because he doesn’t want any one to be killed, I usually ask them
Me : Ohhh, reaaaly? REaaaaaly? Then why after a thousand years will JEHOVAH release Satan to kill PERFECT people AGAIN..If he doesnt want any one to be killed
Me : Can Satan still win the "divine argument"? No... Oh, so why let him loose again?
Smart person : Yea but they need to be tested one last time
Me : I’m sorry, are you hearing yourself? Why The hell would you want to do that for? What does that have to do with the issue if it has already been won/lost
uh... Logic.. It makes none..
