many of us were members of the theocratic ministry school for many years.
some say it helped them with public speaking, and maybe it did for some.. but, when you look back at the quality of student it turned out, was it really any good ?.
most elders are crap public speakers, most r&f bros are crap at reading aloud, most jw's are crap at selling their religion at the door, most jw's have scant real knowledge of the bible.. there are reasons for this, quite often the tms overeer hasn't a clue how to teach a person to progress.
Schools work that way, anyway. Some turn out bright pupils, some don't. Some teachers are awful, some are genuises. Problem with the TMS was, you never could "graduate"!
It helped me in public speaking and honed my ability to respond unfazed at questions thrown at random. Have not failed one job interview; and if I wanted to, I could spin a yarn.
OK, maybe I have some natural abilities that I could have developed without the TMS. But the TMS was a good thing to have.
pc
verily, thus saith the creator of all things of life and light which are good.
behold the time of tribulation draweth near and is soon at hand; i am in the sun, and the light of the sun and it shall soon darken in the day you perceive not.. .
let this be a sign unto the world that tribulation cometh quickly, the day which darkens soon cometh upon the world.
Doesn't take much to predict Isreal's reaction to an attack from Syria, America's support to Isreal, Iran's joining the brawl, the fratricide between Sunnis and Shiites exploding in the Middle East.
pc
no more assemblies or conventions.... no more service meetings, book studies, bible studies..... no more bethelites, gilead graduates, no more missionary work.. no more watchtower studies, field service, pioneers, elders, ministerial servants.. no more 'serving where the need is great.'.
its over, its over.. the watchtower has decided to end it all, suspend the organization work.
no more money.
Absolute nonsense, is what you have written.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.
naaaahh.
we're not a business.
Ingenious, actually. Movin' on with the time, is what it is. And the layout is pretty cool too. For once, I applaud.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/jehovahs-witnesses-couple-from-jupiter-accused-of-/nyhx3/.
posted: 2:50 p.m. tuesday, june 11, 2013. jehovah's witnesses couple accused of neglecting child by feeding only fruits, vegetables and juicescomment(31) 21 191 22 477relatedview larger louis, claudelview larger louis, vanessaby alexandra seltzerpalm beach post staff writer.
a suburban jupiter couple is in the county jail today after they refused to give their 19-month-old boy the nutrients he needed, causing him to end up in a local hospital's intensive care unit.claudel and vanessa louis face charges of neglect of a child with great bodily harm.palm beach county sheriff's deputies were called to st. mary's medical center in west palm beach on june 5 to investigate the child neglect case.. the 19-month-old boy was admitted to the hospital may 24 after he had trouble breathing.the boy's doctor told the investigating deputy that the boy was severely malnourished, underdeveloped and was in respiratory distress, according to a sheriff's probable-cause affidavit.
Absolute nonsense to ever associate the parents' action to the fact that they are Jehovah's Witnesses. Total crap.
LouBelle,
Is it possible to appeal to an ombudsman? In some labour systems, the ombudsman mediates.
Two, in the contract you signed, are there specifics as to when salary payments are due? You could gently remind your employers that they are in breach of the relevant clauses.
Do calm down and try to stay in control.
Best.
pc
that's right, and it's great!
i don't know exactly why because he hasn't turned apostate and still seems to believe jw things.
i don't feel comfortable in asking him why he doesn't go to meetings anymore for some reason, or find out what he believes and if the things i've told him bout ttatt influenced his decision.
Just don't go about talking to him about the meetings and all that past "spiritual" stuff anymore! The more meetings missed and replaced with more relaxing stuff, the happier the two of you will become.
As for the beard thing, you could even buy him a trimmer as a surprise present...
pc
i am so tired of waking up without hope.
so tired of fighting one more day...i just want it to end as painless as possible.
i truly don't have the willpower or strength anymore..
Lovely support from all posts.
On a more practical side, how about the Board coming together to send her an airticket to visit someone on the Board, or putting together some financial assistance to help her go through these rough times?
Her job isn't helping (irregular salary payment, crappy work environment); she's not happy where she lives (she did complain about some man threatening her); before now, she was out her job and was barely hanging on. There is just enough a body can take.
Could there be someone in South Africa - or even southern Africa (which covers many countries) who could host her for some time until she finds her feet?
Sorry Loubelle if this is not the sort of thing you would appreciate. If so, forgive me.
pc
i never met such a physically and mentally ill group of people outside jws except for at the local hospital or old folks' home.
from chronic fatigue to fibromyalgia to depression to arthritis to kids lacking lustre to heart problems to cancer, bipolar to every co and his wife having food intolerances.... are jehovah's witnesses the most ailing group?
what is your observation?.
Really?
What pathology did you suffer from?
pc
i want to practice christianity but i feel i can't just yet as i'll be 'outed' before i'm ready.
the spy network will report me to the elders, and that's it, i'm gone before i'm ready.
and before my husband is ready.. can one feel spiritually frustrated?
Julia,
I would really give it some time. Try and savour the time you now have. Talking from my own perspective, I did not find - and have still not found - any church association fulfilling. There are far too many things that remind me of where I'd been and why I would no longer want to get back there. Christianity you can practice by following some of the basics that Jesus laid down - for instance fellow feeling, love for others, etc. If eventually doing so in a loose associative framework works for you, the gap period would at least have given you some time to search without being in too much of a hurry.
Best of luck.
pc
