Posts by Freesoul

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Hold Me, Thrill Me

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

jw
friends

i'm going to be honest and from the heart when i say that for 40 years in the jw religion i was very happy in my ignorance!

man, what a trip it was.

i loved every minute of it but then i was absent the bad in my religion.

Freesoul

ust so you all know I still attend meetings. I recognize the problems but I also see that there are few options outside of the Society for a Christian who does not believe in the Trinity.

I faded 25 years ago and thought I could never step into a christian because they all believed in the trinity and that the trinity has a pagan origin.

It has taken me 25 years to actually study the trinity and work out what trinity means.

The trinity that the JW's explain is not trinity, it is modalism (the father and son being the same person). The question we have to ask ourselves is when the bible says that Jesus is the "son of god" is his nature the nature of a god or the nature of an angel?

When Jesus called himself "son of man" we know he meant he was human, but when he calls himself "son of god, does that mean his nature is that of an angel (Michael the archangel) or the nature of god?

We may not be able to explain the trinity but I know the JW's are wrong with their reasoning.

It wasn't until I could grasp this that I could step into another church.

I still call myself christian, so now I will go to a local church once in a while. But I don't think I could be part of church community like I was with the JW's.

The first time I got enough courage to go to one I decided that if I was going to feel guilty about anything the said I would run out as fast as I can, I was quite surprised, the singing was so touching it made me so emotional. You'll never feel like this at a kingdom hall.

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

jw
friends

i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

Freesoul

Hi Stumpy

Welcome to you and your wife from another fellow Aussie,

I faded successful 25 years ago, there is life after the watchtower, a really good one.

Take care

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she passed faithful to the end to them!

by jookbeard in

just found out (second hand of course) and by someone on here that my faithful jw mum passed away within the last couple of days, dont know the exact day, and what cause, she spent the last few years living with my fanatical sister, she was 65 and survived my father by 10 years, bitter, angry and hateful till the end and never as so much enquired or asked how her 2 grandchildren ever were , they are 5 and 7!

feeling a mixture of emotions right now, they were lousy parents in all honesty, she suffered health wise so maybe its for the best, dont even know when the funeral is!

Freesoul

Jookbeard

I don't believe the elders would know what your mum's wishes were, as they are only there to protect their religion. If they really cared about your family and your mum's wishes they would not be breaking families up. I don't won't to tell you what to do, but there is nothing wrong with a DF'd person attending a JW funeral.

I am not Df'd but have faded but when my sister in law passed away about a year ago, there were a lot of people that were DF'ed that attended her funeral, they were not sure if they should go but felt better after they did, they did this because they wanted to pay their respect to her has a beautiful human being.

Take care in whatever decision you make xx

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she passed faithful to the end to them!

by jookbeard in

just found out (second hand of course) and by someone on here that my faithful jw mum passed away within the last couple of days, dont know the exact day, and what cause, she spent the last few years living with my fanatical sister, she was 65 and survived my father by 10 years, bitter, angry and hateful till the end and never as so much enquired or asked how her 2 grandchildren ever were , they are 5 and 7!

feeling a mixture of emotions right now, they were lousy parents in all honesty, she suffered health wise so maybe its for the best, dont even know when the funeral is!

Freesoul

Sorry to hear about your mum, it must really hurt.

Make sure that they do not stop you going to her funeral, it is part of the grieving process, don't worry about anybody else's feelings, you need to do this for yourself.

Do you have anyone close to you that can support you when you go?

Take care

Freesoul xx

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Worst Memorial Talk Ever!

by The Searcher in

i honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.

oh yeah????.

he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!

Freesoul

I went to a christian church in the morning, the singing was so heartfelt and quite emotional.

Went to yoga in the afternoon, I felt compassion and calm.

Went to the memorial in the evening, it felt legalistic, boring and no soul in the place.

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I have a serious problem

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

Freesoul

Sorry to hear this is happening to you, the JW's believe they can lie to you and disrespect you, it's called "theocratic warfare".

You have to use "theocratic warfare" back on them, You know they lie to you, that should make it OK to lie back to them. This may means you need to choose your words carefully, if your are asked any questions about the organisation do not admit to anything you are feeling, you say you have been too busy or sick.

I believe your best bet is to say the only person your son can study with is your wife. No other person in the congregation should be able to have access to your son, this goes against bible principles as you are the head of your family.

Make sure you spend as much time with your family as possible and show your wife and son plenty of attention, love and caring, they will not find this at JW meetings. (the only thing they get from meetings is fear and guilt).

Go on family outings, camping in the country side with them and involve your son's friends. Try and get your son involved with team sports as well.

Your son is still young and I am sure you can get him out by asking him questions that will question his faith. It will be too late if he gets baptised.

Keep you head up and try to keep happy, balanced and calm, this will really confuse them.

Take care, I hope it all works out for you.

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If The Witnesses Try To Get You Back To Jehovah...How Will You Respond!

by minimus in

jw
friends

i am most curious.

Freesoul

When my dad invited my to the last international assembly my reply was

I asked if any of the governing body was going to be there because I am afraid of the 7 men in Brooklyn that direct this organisation, because if I don't follow them they can use me family as a weapon against me.

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JW Son dead in German plane crash, no big deal!

by noolite in

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friends

seems to be a jw connection with the crash after all, but it wasn't the co-pilot as some had surmised.

the father of the only american male killed in the crash weighs in with a very mild assessment of the mass murderer, and doesn't seem overly concerned about his son, now deceased.. ---------------------------------------------------------------- .

"the parents of an american victim of the french alps plane crash said on 27 march they feel sadness for the parents of the co-pilot rather than feeling anger for the loss of their son.. robert tansill oliver, a jehovah's witness, lost his 37-year-old son robert oliver calvo in the germanwings plane crash.. "i don t feel anger.

Freesoul

He gave the same answer that all JW's are programmed to give.

Don't talk about the poor person that passed away, just talk about the JW religion. All they are interested in is what a fine witness they can give to the world about their false hope.

I get really upset when I go to any JW funeral.

I feel very sorry for him.

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Wife fully awake.

by cappytan in

i learned this past week that my wife is now awake.

i just shared the pbs newshour segment with her with no comment other than something along the lines of, "jw story on pbs.".

she is furious at the arrogance of these men.. thats what happens when you get a momma angry!.

Freesoul

YEAH!!!!!! I am so happy for you both

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IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

by AndersonsInfo in

important news:.

here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

Freesoul

Thanks Nathan