i cant help'but agree with doc, otherwise howmdoes explain whynthe wts has not also been renamed to something with'jehovah in it? how can gods org on earth not be called jehovahs watchtower etc?
Posts by mP
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47Our door to door activities were a personal ministry and not recognised as representatives or volunteers of the Watchtower Bible And Tract Society
by smiddy inhow do you feel about that ?were you misled (again) after all these years ?
this article from the newspaper in the latrobe area reffering to steven unthanks case is truly disturbing.
its an affront and an insult to any and everyone who has participated in the ministry of jehovah`s witnesses over many, many years.talk about being thrown to the wolves.how low can this organization go in saving face at the expense of those whose loyalty and devotion is discarded for a perceived image.absolutely shocking.
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As an ex near witness I have a voracious capacity for reading
by Star tiger insince nearly being consumed by witness mentality as an almost baptised member but thankfully due to my fantastic wifes scepticism toward it, i have now embarked on a voracious capacity for reading all the books that were once excluded from my list to get a total rounded out experience of life from the communist manifesto to atlas shrugged, wealth of nations, the age of reason, robert anton wilson, the koran and dare i say it mein kamf, the vedas, but i am still a bit frightened of the golden bough due to the residue of the jw's.
all knowledge must be good, i've read the bible and but it seem a bit meh!, all books have some interesting points, except the nazi one but it's good to read anything you can!.
anybody else obssesed with reading!!.
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inwould recommend jospeh atwills caesars messiah.
- did you know nazareth was discoverd by constantines mum queen helena and that nazareth sis notb exist beforehand?
- did you know the apostle paulsmtrip to rome macthes jsoephus ownntrip, sea'wreck, malta etc, google for it --josephus paul rome--
-did you know only titus does everything jesusnpredicts?
- did you know comparing titus campaign and location of battles matches jesus wondering aeound judea.
- did you ever wonder why everyone women in the gospels just about is called mary? im serious make a mental list.
- did younknow mesada was destroyed exactly fortynyears to donthe day of christsbdeath?
- did you know titus two majormadvesroeis in his campaign were called simon and john, like jesus favorite disciples?
- did you know jospeh of arimathea is a play on josephus hebrew name, joseph ben matthais, and there is no arimathea?
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Witnessing at school
by I-follow-the-narrow-path ini was in class and by these two women (one who was a christian and the other student i am unsure of).
i asked them, randomly, "do you know much about jehovah's witnesses?
" -- they both said "yes" and the non-christian said "i had a jw friend and he really hated it... he disaproved of what they taught" -- i started to talk about shunning and disfellowship.
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mP
do some more research and youll find out thst jesus wasnt even the messiah, asknjosephus.
josephus said vespasian was the messiah-wiki it. after vespasian and titus are the ones who came and destroyed jeruslaem just like jesus said.
take a look at joseph atwills caesars messiah it explains how they inevted a peaceful messiah so the jews would stop falling for thenother rebel leaders. twomof these famousnleaders wwre called john and simon, sound fsmiliar? every wonder why jesus tells us tompay tax but diesnt seem to worry about slaves or womens rights? have a think about jesus message exmaine the trouble that was anxient judea and younwill understand why jesus preached peace while the rest of the ot is full of prophets cursimg down death to anyone not jewish.
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The Watchtower's Collection Plate Dilemma
by metatron ini was eating with a catholic friend who made a little joke about how "your church doesn't pass the plate".. well, not yet, anyway.
i'm sure that fact is a real dilemma for the society, given their seemingly endless spiral of cutbacks in recent.
years.
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mP
why doesnt wts simply add credit card payments on their site and simply pay a little tax, and make everything downloadable? they wpuld save lots on housing all those printing presses, and staff. the assemblies could be cancelled saving all that money, and they could watch the talks over the internet. assembly halls in all them countries must seem like an unnecessary waste. why have all those kh unused when the ah is filled. seems silly that both are never filled at the same time.
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Circumcision and Jehovah's Witnesses - a personal account with research
by PrimateDave ini wrote this article to post on this forum because of the pain that i felt at one time.
i know that i can never get any acknowledgment from the watchtower bible and tract society because they could never admit that infant male circumcision is mutilation and abuse.
if for some reason some of you believe with all your heart that circumcision is a good thing, i would request that you read this with an open mind.
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why didnt god makemmennuncircumsized to begin with. and why is he so infatuated with pensises. scan your bible amd you will fins lots of penis worries from jehovah.
- the story of moses uncircumsized son who nearly got killed by god, until he was quickly dixed. hasnt god got bigger things to worry about.
- look at the 613 mitzvot'or laws, there are lots of weird ones, like a women getting her hand cut off if she helps'her husband in afight and touches the other mans thing.
- the story where abraham has his man servant make a testament before going to get a wife from back home for isaac, by touching hismdick. thats right the test in testament is from testicle. thanks tomthe abraham story you know why or how testaments where done back then, the peoper way. shaking hands ismpagan.
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how do jws explain other non ot jewish beliefs like kaballah, talmud?
by mP inwhy is it jws believe the old testament and yet ignore the other religious commentary and sprititual aspects available from the jewish culture.
take jesus for example, no where is he mentioned by name in the ot or in the writings of jews who lived in the first century, and still believe.. kaballah is another weird, astrotheological part of jewsish religion, magic numbers, inner soul, magic powers, astrology and so on.
how do they explain the same jewish leaders who run the jrwish religion also came up with this stuff ?.
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why is it jws believe the old testament and yet ignore the other religious commentary and sprititual aspects available from the jewish culture.
take jesus for example, no where is he mentioned by name in the ot or in the writings of jews who lived in the first century, and still believe.
kaballah is another weird, astrotheological part of jewsish religion, magic numbers, inner soul, magic powers, astrology and so on. how do they explain the same jewish leaders who run the jrwish religion also came up with this stuff ?
the talmud is especially interesting because they have funny stories that explainparadoxes like who did cain marry. theres also a story of adams first wife and im not talking about eve, im talking about lilith. you may have heard of her in the lullaby hush little baby, yes thats her.
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Assembly Hall sold in Barcelona city (Spain) Where is the money?
by JHK inthe governing body bank has sold the assembly hall in barcelona city (spain).
now, we have not any en barcelona city!.
where is our money?
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but even the gb dont exactly have millionaire playboy lifestyles. im njot going to deny they dont travel first class and experience fine hotels and so on, but there are only a few and whatever they spend is nowhere near the income that flows in each year. anyway its a bit hard for old farts like them to really enjoy fancy girls, speed boats and planes. what is the point of collecting that wealth if those at the top dont even spend it?
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The tower of Babel- full of holes?
by highdose ini was thinking the other day about the tower of babel ( like you do) somthing that always puzzled me about reading the account in our modern day times is that we have today buildings that would have been vastly taller than the tower of babel.
even if purely because the materials needed to build modern sky scrapers have to be light in order to acheive that height.
accient heavy bricks just wouldn't have done it.. just why was god so threatened by a building???
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if you read the tower of babel story just the chapter before we have a discussuon about descendants and how they speak different languages. if one does the math we can see man already spoje diff langs before babel...
gen 11:1 and 10:5
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is shunning completely anti preaching?
by mP inif jws are supposed to preach to everyone the good news, whyndo they refuse to talk to shunned ones ?
isnt it their respsonsibilityntomkeep good relations so they can win them back ?.
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but they dont know the truth, if they truely did and understood they wouldnt have left etc. also the truth gets shinier maybe they left'because some poimtmwas wrong and has now been improved.
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the neanderthals were the nephilim who were led by goliath of gath.'come on guys read the book of enoch, it explains the watchers and nephilim innfull hd detail.