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  Ok one more time...How do YOU view Jesus???

  by 3dogs1husband in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so i tried to start a thread here... www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/humour/223581/1/untitled-topic.

  and i left it untitled - duh and now i cannot reply to it, and am having trouble opening it.

  i thought i would try this again.

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  mP

  @talesin

  im reading a few books at a time, will try and find which one mentions arthur and camelot.
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  The Scriptures And Abortion

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just saw the posting on the bible and abortion.

  thou shalt not doubt whether a thing shall be or not be.

  thou shalt not take the name of the lord in vain.

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  The only reason the Bible has some harsh things about abortion is that Israel was a small country between big empires.

  A lot of their sexual policy was around this policy that required the maximum number of kids.

  - ban homosexual men because they dont father kids.

  - bible doesnt care about lesbians(lesbians are never mentioned), becaues the men will just rape them anyway.

  - bible condones polygamy and taking virgins from neighbours because they will have good jewish kids.

  - abortions are bad because again population growth is key.

  - the king needs men for his army

  - the rich need more peasents to work the fields and other labours.

  Most of policies appear to have changed by Jesus time simply because Rome was simply too strong, the Jews could not raid thei rneighbours, nor did they ever have a chance against might Rome.

  We can see the same policy of banning abortion and birth control in the Catholic church. Its simple to see they too are also concerned with population growth for the same sorts of reasons. More kids, more workers, more money for king and church. The church is just a franchise within the kingdom to direct thought and moral ideas for money.
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  The Fundamental Mistake

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there's a funny story that's circulated among engineering types about a young vp at arco.

  he saw an inordinate amount of 'boiler operators' on the payroll and noticed that they made an inordinate amount of money.

  he decided that he would save the company a bunch of money by out-sourcing the building maintenance.

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  The WTS needs a big stunt to surprise the world, like finding the ark or something, even if they have to fabricate one and come back later with cameras...
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  Why doesn't the WT close the religion?

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was pondering the other day, why the watchtower corporation doesn't just sell off all the kingdom halls and hang the jws out to dry seeing they make far more $$$ from business than peddling the religion these days.. then it dawned on me... they need to keep that little sideline going for the tax breaks!.

  slow learner i guess.. oz .

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  But they dont even witness anymore. You never see them at train stations and they visit areas once every five years that they would have covered every other month.

  If yourmaking money you can afford to pay company tax, the rate isnt that high. Surely they woul dhave been better to pay tax on the mags an d charge than accept donations which arent guaranteed for every copy!
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  The Scriptures And Abortion

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just saw the posting on the bible and abortion.

  thou shalt not doubt whether a thing shall be or not be.

  thou shalt not take the name of the lord in vain.

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  Why would anyone worry what the bible says about abortion when it condones slavery and the rape of virgins with redemption via payment of a dowry.
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  Ok one more time...How do YOU view Jesus???

  by 3dogs1husband in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so i tried to start a thread here... www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/humour/223581/1/untitled-topic.

  and i left it untitled - duh and now i cannot reply to it, and am having trouble opening it.

  i thought i would try this again.

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  mP

  I was reading a book about King Arthur and his connections to history or particularly saviour god men. The 12 knights of the round table are of course the zodiac. Its always 12.

  - Jason and the 12 argonauts

  - Hercules and the 12 tasks

  - Jesus and the 12 disciples

  and on and on.
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  Detailed Financial Information - WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF CANADA

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the link below was sent to me today.

  i have no idea if this information has been posted before.

  found at the bottom of the page was this information:date modified: 2012-01-25 schedule 6: detailed financial information - watch tower bible and tract society of canadahttp://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form21sched6-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&e=2010-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2ft3010form21-fra.action%3fb%3d119288918rr0001%26amp%3be%3d2010-08-31%26amp%3bn%3dwatch%2btower%2bbible%2band%2btract%2bsociety%2bof%2bcanada%26amp%3br%3dh ttp%253a%252f%252fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%253a80%252febci%252fhaip%252fsrch%252fbasicsearchresult-fra.action%253fs%253dregistered%2526amp%253bk%253dwatch%252btower%252bbible%2526amp%253bp%253d1%2526amp%253bb%253dtrue

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  mP

  Assets:
  Cash, bank accounts, and short-term investments	4100	$ 22,490,331
  Amounts receivable from non-arm's length parties	4110
  Amounts receivable from all others	4120	$ 4,913,608
  Investments in non-arm's length parties	4130
  Long-term investments	4140	$ 62,716,482
  Inventories	4150	$ 1,411,585
  Land and buildings in Canada	4155	$ 49,115,890
  Other capital assets in Canada	4160	$ 22,729,383
  Capital assets outside Canada	4165
  Accumulated amortization of capital assets	4166	$ -27,154,612
  Other assets	4170	$ 25,607,592
  Total assets (add lines 4100 to 4170)	4200	$ 161,830,259
  Amount included in lines 4150, 4155, 4160, 4165 and 4170 not used in charitable programs	4250	$ 1,095,882
  Liabilities:
  Accounts payable and accrued liabilities	4300	$ 5,178,558
  Deferred revenue	4310
  Amounts owing to non-arm's length parties	4320	$ 305,198
  Other liabilities	4330	$ 39,737,524
  Total liabilities (add lines 4300 to 4330)	4350	$ 45,221,280

  Total eligible amount of all gifts for which the charity issued tax receipts	4500	$ 14,515,271
  For all tax-receipted gifts received during the fiscal period please provide:
  Total eligible amount of tax-receipted tuition fees	5610
  Total eligible amount of tax-receipted enduring property	5640
  Total amount received from other registered charities (excluding specified gifts and enduring property)	4510	$ 8,527,653
  Total specified gifts from other registered charities	4520
  Total enduring property from other registered charities	4525
  Total other gifts received for which a tax receipt was not issued by the charity	4530	$ 18,467,084
  Total revenue received from federal government	4540
  Total revenue received from provincial/territorial governments	4550
  Total revenue received from municipal/regional governments	4560
  Total revenue received from all sources outside Canada	4575
  Total interest and investment income received or earned	4580	$ 3,601,930
  Gross proceeds from disposition of assets	4590	$ 404,624
  Net proceeds from disposition of assets (show a negative amount with brackets)	4600	$ -509,860
  Gross income received from rental of land and/or buildings	4610
  Non tax-receipted revenues received for memberships, dues, and association fees	4620
  Total non tax-receipted revenue from fundraising	4630
  Total revenue from sale of goods and services (except to government)	4640
  Other revenue not already included in the amounts above	4650	$ 386,529

  Occupancy costs

  4850

  $ 4,543,958

  Total amount of gifts (excluding enduring property and specified gifts) made to all qualified donees

  5050

  $ 61,379

  Fair market value of all donated good used in charitable programs

  4890

  • Is that 400K from publications sold and $40M from donations ?
  • 62M in long term investments and only 22M in cash ? How can this be with Armageddon coming next week/month/year...?
  • Zero to charity !
  • 61K in gifts -- to whom ?
  • 4.5M in occupancy costs, do they rent or lease anything surely they own all their properties in Ca ?
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  The "patibulum" : a fragile theory !

  by TheFrench in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the latin fathers of the church has never described jesus carrying a "patibulum".

  indeed, the early christians to represent jesus carrying the "crux", not the "patibulum".

  it's a fact.

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  Why does it matter what JC was crucified on ? The Romans were in charge and they did what they wanted. Does the message of the NT change that dramatically if he was crucified on a cross or a stake ?
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  The anti christ in Revelation is the Internet.

  by mP in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  forget the us, the uk or the un they arent really opponents that will defeat the wts, the real dragon is the internet.

  im surprised that the wts has not published this.

  after the internet is 99% porno and other temptations and evils.

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  Some how i think the WTS itself thinks the next age was 2000 perhaps due to some creative rounding of the ages. Plus not all signs are equal with so its quite possible that Aquaris might have already under the sun at the Spring equinox. I would have to check that but i think i have heard it said somewhere.
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  Bart Ehrman...Jesus Existed

  by XJW4EVR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when the uber-liberal, agnostic bart ehrman says it...it must be true.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bart-d-ehrman/did-jesus-exist_b_1349544.html.

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  Sometimes i wonder from reading and hearing Barts speeches if he doesnt want to sound to extreme in saying jesus didnt exist. hes happy to repeat how many thousands of differences are between the same version of the same book and contradictions within the gospel stories. He also likes to say the books in the NT are all mostly greek because of puns and language that only works if it was greek.