Posts by biometrics

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JW's 'put off living'

by Lady Viola in

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i was reading a book and read the following quote:.

"one of the most tragic things i know about human nature is.

that all of us tend to put off living.

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When people constantly beleive "The end is coming" of course they put things off, or behave irrationally. While the end may be coming, focusing on that event every day of your life isn't good.

I know I've put off many things. I know of many young married couples who put off having kids because of "The Truth". Tragically, I know a young couple who were in a car accident, the wife died. They never had kids because they wanted to server "Where the need is greater" or "Where we need more recurits" as I like to put it.

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History of 1914 date

by robB in

from the small amount of research that i've done i've found the following points:.

charles russell was the author of the prophecy that christ returned in 1914in an earlier period of his life russell promoted the idea christ had returned in 1874, which was originated by another man named nelson barbourat both times, christ was said to have returned invisibly (does anyone remember the story of the emperor's new clothes)russell used some measurements from inside of the great pyramid of giza to bolster his calculation for 1914, which was rooted in the cobbling of bible passages dealing with the fall of jersualem, the times of the gentiles and nebuchadneezar episode of madness (7 times)am i missing anything?.

i'm trying to show a friend in the organization that all of this is a bunch of baloney.. .

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I wonder what would be the change if the Watchtower renounced the 1914 doctrine?

A good thread on this forum would be "You would return to the Jehovah's Witnesses if ..."

I would return if they:

Renounced 1914.
Admitted Russell was a crack pot.
Formally recognised that there is no clear evidence they are God's only channel on earth.
Showed love to the spiritually sick, rather than shunning.
Recognised they may not have ALL the answers.

Then again, maybe that's too much to ask?

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How Come I Rarely See People In Field Service, Vs The 1980-1990s Doing House2House?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

field service hours have hit new records each year, but i am seeing less people working the territory.

where is all the time spent, that people are putting in the field ministry?

it's been close to ten years, since i have seen people working certain territories.

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The next trick of the GB may be to END the preaching work. I imagine that would put the wind up them, and you'd see meeting attendance go up for a few years. Maybe even tripple the contributions.

Then with all the money they made, they could re-structure the organisation, have online-delivery of all content, close all printing presses, accept PayPal donations, and the GB could live in luxury on their hedge fund investments. Beyond that, they could sell all KHs and start up an internet TV service for meetings.

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Watchtower 1954 = "Jesus had NO Beard and nice short hair?? What?

by Witness 007 in

1954 - 1968 jesus appeared in all publication pictures as a clean shaven short haired "witness" man....remember?.

watchtower 1954 p.511 q.f.r "why do watchtower books now show jesus with short hair and no beard?

....because he is shown that way in representations that are older then the traditional effeminate looking pictures...".

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At least he wasn't carrying copies of the Watchtower and Awake!

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Message at yesterdays assembly

by isaacaustin in

a relative of mine was at the assembly yesterday and was appalled at the message givien before lunch:.

she heard them blast higher education...then warn to not miss meetings for work...then they gave the stupidest illustration i ever heard- they said that it is true that supporting your family is important...but not to give it too much importance and said it is like trying to cross a busy street.

they said if you see a car a long distance off it is ok to cross, if you are too careful you will never cross the street.

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They've been bashing education since I was a child. I excelled at school, science and math. I was encouraged by brothers not to persue further education, and encouraged to leave school at 15 years of age.

My first job was labouring for a brother who was a roof tiler, I still remember waiting two weeks for my first pay. But it's OK because he's a brother, in the "Truth". After having to chase him for every pay, and nearly falling off the roof I decided to quit.

I later got a job with another brother who was a brick layer. That lasted 10 months. Since I didn't like window cleaning, or cleaning (which a lot of JWs are) I took an apprentiship with some worldly people.

After all that I decided to get an eductation (despite advice from elders). I now have a very well paid job, and a great family, and don't have to struggle to make money. I have more free time that I ever would've if I become a window cleaner, or roof tiler.

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Those who still show up at the meetings, How do you manage?.

by Mr Facts in

for those who still show up at the meetings, how do you manage?.

do you still offer comments and how do you actually muster up the boldness to gave talks and still do all of those craps?..

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Wow. I didn't realize there are so many still going to the meetings.

I quit cold turkey! You could almost say I shunned the Watchtower Society. I didn't even go to the memorial (twice now).

The elders came and had a little talk with me. I said "Do you really beleive everything the Watchtower tells you?" they never answered that question.

My wife still has studies once per week. I sit in. When the elder asks if I agree (usually about WTBS being God's only channel), I point blank say I don't agree. Then he'll say something like where else can you go.

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How Come I Rarely See People In Field Service, Vs The 1980-1990s Doing House2House?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

field service hours have hit new records each year, but i am seeing less people working the territory.

where is all the time spent, that people are putting in the field ministry?

it's been close to ten years, since i have seen people working certain territories.

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How about this theory. The sprit directs Jehovah's Witnesses to avoid apostates, and thust you never see them.

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How Come I Rarely See People In Field Service, Vs The 1980-1990s Doing House2House?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

field service hours have hit new records each year, but i am seeing less people working the territory.

where is all the time spent, that people are putting in the field ministry?

it's been close to ten years, since i have seen people working certain territories.

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Becaues they're now more creative with how they go witnessing. Bible study with family, email, commenting on You Tube ... all make up hours in the ministry.

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Anyone else suffer from sleep paralysis?

by Razziel in

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oldflame's post got me thinking about it.

i've never asked other people about how common it is, but it's pretty scary.. basically your body is asleep and paralyzed, but your mind is awake.

sometimes you get a feeling of dread, othertimes of euphoria.

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Yes, had it once years ago. Not something I'll ever forget.

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Can anyone prove that birthday celebrations are forbidden by God?

by FaithfulBrother in

i know that there is no mention of any birthday celebrations in the bible besides the two which were celebrated by non-believers.

and it just so happened that on each of these events, someone died (one non-believer and one believer).

but does it mean that just because the bible mentions these two events, that all birthday celebrations are forbidden?

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I can prove birthday celebrations are forbidden by the Watchtower Society.

Birthday celebration == DF'd

Now. Can someone prove the Watcthower society has authority from the bible?