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Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?
by Bangalore inred meat: what makes it unhealthy?.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/14/news/la-heb-red-meat-why-bad-20120314.
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Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?
by Bangalore inred meat: what makes it unhealthy?.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/14/news/la-heb-red-meat-why-bad-20120314.
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@Razziel
All I'm saying is going back ten thousand years (or more) isn't necessary to prove that the current western diet is very unhealthy. Yes, I agree our ancestors ate meat. However, beyond 100 years ago the quantity and frequency of meat consumption was much less than it is today. And of course there are much worse things than meat such as dairy based food, refined foods, which were never part of our ancestor's diet. That’s something I think we can both agree on.
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Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?
by Bangalore inred meat: what makes it unhealthy?.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/14/news/la-heb-red-meat-why-bad-20120314.
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@still thinking
...and we have had thousands or years to adapt to our diet...and now...it is our diet.
No. The current western diet is less than one hundred years old. Go back in history a more than that and you'll see that the quantity of meat consumed has nearly doubled in that period. Also the amount of refined foods, and dairy has nearly tripled, while vegetables and whole food consumption has decreased.
But to claim that we shouldn't eat it[meat] is stretching it don't you think?
I don't think I ever claimed that anyone shouldn't eat meat. I'm claming that the evidence shows meat should be a very minor part of a healthy diet.
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Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?
by Bangalore inred meat: what makes it unhealthy?.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/14/news/la-heb-red-meat-why-bad-20120314.
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@still thinking
I don't think you can't have a ballanced diet without meat
I'm not having a go at you personally, and that was my opinion a few years ago.
It is entirely possible to have a balanced diet without meat (and dairy). My family does eat eggs (vitamin b12), and get all the protein we need from beans, potatoes, brown rice and green leafy vegetables.
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Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?
by Bangalore inred meat: what makes it unhealthy?.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/14/news/la-heb-red-meat-why-bad-20120314.
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One of the differences is that the traditional Inuit's diet is very high in Omega-3 fats while our western diet is very high in Omega-6 fats. Science has shown that the ratio of Omega-6 to Omega-3 should be as close to a ratio of 1:1 and certainly no more than 4:1. Inuits are about the only peoples to approach the 1:1 ratio while we typically come in at 20:1 and the real junk foodists are measuring in at upwards of 50:1 ratios. A balanced Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio promotes a homeostasis, non-inflammatory state in the body while a tilt to the high Omega-6 side will promote an inflammatory and therefore disease and degenerative state.
It's a bit of a far stretch to justify a western meat diet with the Inuit's mostly raw diet of fish and seal fat. Not only that, as you've stated they've had thousands of years to adapt to that diet.
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Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?
by Bangalore inred meat: what makes it unhealthy?.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/14/news/la-heb-red-meat-why-bad-20120314.
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@still thinking
What sort or reasoning is that bio?
It's the same logic as my mum (and other people) saying "Are you sure they[my kids] get enough protein [not eating meat]" and "how do they get calcium if they[my kids] don't have dairy". I merely pointed out they are healthy, and my mother does't say a word about their (growth-stunted) cousins. In my opinion they are healthier than their peers, and certianlly don't get ill as often.
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Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?
by Bangalore inred meat: what makes it unhealthy?.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/14/news/la-heb-red-meat-why-bad-20120314.
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@Razziel
I try to deal in facts and current evicence, not fiction. There's actually no human records going beyond 5,000 years ago (but that's another topic, for another thread), so it's impossible to determine whether or not agriculture was developed prior to that. I'll leave it at that, but if you'd like to start another thread for that topic I'd be on it.
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Verbal definitions exclusive to the WT?
by Chariklo ini've been meaning to ask this for a while.. just what, exactly, do the jw's mean by "shepherding"?.
being a naive ex-/ or rather lapsed catholic i assumed that "shepherding" calls were the same thing as pastoral visits by a priest, which involve basically a friendly cup of tea/coffee and a chat, or a visit in hospital to the sick.. it's gradually dawning on me that there's not a lot that's pastoral about "shepherding" visits by the jw's.
reading through stfog, i have a feeling that their brand of shepherds are a mixture of policeman and agents provocateurs.. similarly with "counsel", and "counselling".
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I've had shepherding calls. The elders usually won't mention to they are on a shepherding call, they'll come around under the pretence of a friendly chat, but they'll be steering the conversation toward certain topics.
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Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?
by Bangalore inred meat: what makes it unhealthy?.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/14/news/la-heb-red-meat-why-bad-20120314.
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Facts support meat (and animal protein) being a very minor part of human diet. That doesn't make us "meat-eaters" or carnivores , rather humans are primarily herbivores that occasionally can eat meat (e.g. Once a week as a maximum).
Personally I ate meat for 35 years of my life, and probably as much or more than most people. I quit because of the negative health effects. Since starting a plant based diet, my cholesterol, and blood pressure is better than people half my age. And generally I feel I have more energy. I eat meat maybe once every two months.
My kids have never eaten meat, or dairy products. They are much taller (and stronger) than their peers at school, and seem to be much better at sport and fitness activities. Despite my eldest son being a good 4 inches taller than his cousin who is 3 years older than him, my mum always says "Are you sure they get enough protein" and "how do they get calcium if they don't have dairy". It's these types of stereotypical responses that have no factual basis, and are primarily based on propaganda from the meat and dairy industries.
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Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?
by Bangalore inred meat: what makes it unhealthy?.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/14/news/la-heb-red-meat-why-bad-20120314.
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@still thinking
Here's a quote from the article you linked to:
Chimpanzees are largely fruit eaters, and meat composes only about 3% of the time they spent eating overall, less than in nearly all human societies
Here's another article summarizing studies showing total meat consumption for Chimpanzees is around 1.4% of their overall diet.
http://www.ecologos.org/chimphunt.htm
Putting that in perspective the typical western diet consists of anywhere from 10%-30% meat.