How many R&F sold everything before 1914, 1925, 1975 ... and all the other 'end' dates. How much of that money went to the Watchtower. How many families gave their inheritance to the Watchtower instead of their children?
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It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
by raymond frantz ini just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.
although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .
the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.
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It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
by raymond frantz ini just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.
although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .
the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.
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Can't they just mortgage a few KH's. Now they effectively own them, it shouldn't be an issue.
They've always asked for money, yet make it quite clear "We don't require donations".
Typical Watchtower Speak
We need more donations -> We don't require donations
We love everyone -> They're all going to be killed unless theyr'e one of us
We love congregation members -> If they do something wrong we will not allow anyone to speak to them (including family)
The 144,000 are the anointed slave class, giving food to the sheep -> There's only 12 anointed, and a writing dep producing literature
We only follow the bible -> Watchtower literature is not only required, but given precedence
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How Do You Respond When JWs Say There Is MORE Growth Than Ever Before?
by minimus ini hear that comment from my mom that there are more baptisms, more magazines placed, more of everything!
(a sign of jah's blessing)..
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Another subject matter where JWs have you double-dammed. If you prove growth has stalled or declined they turn it around and say: It's because we're so close to the end. Satan's persecution. ... etc. If there is any growth they say it's because we're so close to the end ...
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Timeline for the seventy years?
by DarkFireWolf ini tried to make a little timeline for when the seventy years began and ended that correlates with history..i might take this to the elders to show them that 609-539 is completely possible for the 70 years while 607 dosen't go with history.i've been told by others in the congregation that we choose 607 because 537-70=607 and that jerusalem being destroyed in 586/7 would only mean 50 years of exile.this is going to be a little bit long too as i've added in the scriptures that fit in this timeline.. 609. nabopolassars 17th year.
babylonians defeat the assyrians.
and the 70 years begin with them ruling over the nations.. jeremiah 25:17-26.
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I had an elder come over to 'study' with my wife. I asked him to prove 607. I even printed out the "Calculating 587 B.C. from the Watchtower" table from jwfacts.com (http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-587.php) and gave it to the elder so he could check the references.
I'm expecting him over tonight to explain exactly how the Watchtower calculated 607 B.C.E as the fall of Jerusalem?
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I grew up not fearing old age
by Sour Grapes inas a teenage jw, i grew up believing that i was not going to finish high school nor would i get old and have to die like my grandparents did.
well, i did finish high school, as did my children and my grandchildren and old age has not been kind to me.
i don't like to look at pictures from 40 years ago, from a time when i was healthy and i had the goal of "stay alive till 75.
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The constant JW lies prophesy that "Armageddon is only a few years away" prevented whole generations of JWs from making necessary old age preparations while they were able to do so. Yet those in control look forward to a comfortable retirement bethel, looked after by an army of willing slaves.
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can we earn our salvation by preaching?
by solomon inare you trying to earn salvation by your door-to-door ministry?no.
we engage regularly in our door-to-door ministry, but we dont believe that we earn our salvation by doing such work.
(ephesians 2:8) why not?.
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It's not a free gift if you have to earn it, is it?
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ipads and laptops
by biometrics inmy wife went to the sunday meeting and said nearly everyone had ipads (tablet pcs) or laptops during the watchtower study with downloaded watctowers.. if they provide free wi-fi and coffee, i might start going again..
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Wonder if the organisation will start using interactive ipad presentations in the door-to-door work. e.g. householder taps answers.
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ipads and laptops
by biometrics inmy wife went to the sunday meeting and said nearly everyone had ipads (tablet pcs) or laptops during the watchtower study with downloaded watctowers.. if they provide free wi-fi and coffee, i might start going again..
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Maybe I should go to the meeting an run a hotspot that redirects all web traffic to jwfacts.com. I don't think I'd need to call the hotspot "go to jwfacts.com". The mere chance at using the internet (rather than listening to the Watchtower reading) should be enough incentive to connect.
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A couple of real wild statements made at the meeting Sunday
by Sour Grapes infrom time to time there are things said by the brother giving the public talk or conducting the watchtower that just make my jaw drop.
here are two from sunday.
"we are 98 years into the last days"
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My observation is certian brothers / elders (who like to look good) make up these comments to look more intelligent/informed when on stage.
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Coming to terms with mortality
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As a teen the part that worried me the most was being resurected without genitals or a sex drive!