Perhaps you can tell her the $4000 is preventing you from returning to the meetings.
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My sister owes me 4000 dollars and wont pay up. Any ideas how I can get it back?
by usualusername ini dont need the cash but would love to hear your ideas.... .
uun .
*she is not a witness.
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$3 Billion class action lawsuit on behalf of Jehovahs Witnesses children
by mind blown indecember 1, 2012. australia.
a $3 billion class action lawsuit is being launched in australia on behalf of up to 6,160 children within the church of jehovahs witnesses.
documents relating to the class action reveal over 14,000 serious criminal breaches of mandatory child protection laws, committed against these children by elders and ministers of religion within the church of jehovahs witnesses over the past 4 years.. the victorian government inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religions and other organisations is currently investigating the allegations, and is expected to hold a public hearing in relation to this in early 2013.. http://jwnewsnetwork.wordpress.com/2012/12/01/3-billion-jehovahs-witnesses-class-action-over-child-abuse/.
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If the class action wins, it's Satan persecuting them.
If the Watchtower wins, it's a blessing from Jehovah.
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Should We Worship Jesus?
by Perry inthere is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.
this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.
this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.
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Matthew 14:33 “Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, Truly you are the Son of God.”
Matthew 28:9 “And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, Rejoice! And they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him.”
Matthew 28:17 “And when they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.”
John 9:38 “Then he said, ‘Lord, I believe!’ And he worshiped Him.”
Hebrews 1:6 “But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, “Let all the angels of God worship Him.”
The Greek word for worship that is used in all the above verses is proskuneo. Obviously, the NKJV chose to translate this word as worship. The New World Translation (NWT), however, chose to translate this word as obeisance (honor, respect) in all the above verses. What becomes interesting about the NWT, is that whenever the same Greek word, proskuneo, is used in relation to the Father, the translators translated it as worship, even though they rendered it differently in relation to Jesus. (This can be verified by looking in the Watchtower’s own Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures.) Is this a double standard? Is the NWT justified in translating this word 2 different ways; as obeisance to Jesus and as worship to the Father?
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Why would anyone think the 7 times of Daniel 4 should have two fulfillments?
by jwfacts ineach prophecy in daniel had only one fulfilment.
why believe inconsistently that daniel 4:9-32 should have two fulfillments?.
daniel 2: an immense image representing kingdoms.
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Phizzy, I noticed that Ethos made the ridiculous claim that 1914 can be arrived at without the use of Daniel 4, but does not seem to have backed up that statement.
Only other way I've seen to arrive at 1914 was using pyramidology by Charles Taze Russell - who said:
"So, then, if we measure backward down the "First Ascending Passage" to its junction with the "Entrance Passage," we shall have a fixed date to mark upon the downward passage. This measure is 1542 inches, and indicates the year BC 1542, as the date at that point. Then measuring down the "Entrance Passage" from that point, to find the distance to the entrance of the "Pit," representing the great trouble and destruction with which this age is to close, when evil will be overthrown from power, we find it to be 3457 inches, symbolizing 3457 years from the above date, BC 1542. This calculation shows AD. 1915 as marking the beginning of the period of trouble; for 1542 years BC plus 1915 years AD. equals 3457 years. Thus the Pyramid witnesses that the close of 1914 will be the beginning of the time of trouble such as was not since there was a nation -- no, nor ever shall be afterward . And thus it will be noted that this "Witness" fully corroborates the' Bible testimony on this subject..." (Charles Taze Russell, Thy Kingdom Come, Studies In The Scriptures, vol. 3, 1910 edition).
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Can a JWs Elder be "removed" if his wife is known as the congregation "gossip"?
by booker-t ini remember in my kingdom hall one of our 5 elders bro.
"smith" had a gossipy wife sis "smith" who would be known to gossip from the time she enter the hall until she left.
i don't know how she never was reproved or counseled for her gossiping.
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For the most part, the only thing that differs is the degree of gossiping.
Sure there may be exceptional cases where the wife doesn't gossip, but they are just that, exceptional cases.
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Can a JWs Elder be "removed" if his wife is known as the congregation "gossip"?
by booker-t ini remember in my kingdom hall one of our 5 elders bro.
"smith" had a gossipy wife sis "smith" who would be known to gossip from the time she enter the hall until she left.
i don't know how she never was reproved or counseled for her gossiping.
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Nearly every elder's wife I ever heard of was the local radio station for gossip.
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Looking to speak to current & ex-JWs in Australia
by nomoreklondikes inhope you don't mind me posting.
i'm a freelance writer, and am currently writing a story on the jehovah's witnesses church for a melbourne magazine.
i've spoken with an elder/spokesperson of a melbourne jw church, who explained the official positions of the church at length, but i'm really interested in getting more of a sense of the day to day experiences of jws, both current and former.
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I'd be happy to chat on the phone on the basis of assured anonymity.
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KINGDOM HALL GATHERINGS VS "WEIGHT WATCHER'S MEETINGS"
by ÁrbolesdeArabia ini was told about this great place where each person is trying to acheive the same goal.
on the tuesday meeting, we sat back and listened to the success story of our teacher.
he has been following "the way" for close to twenty years, gained mastery over his unnatural desires and cravings.
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One shuns food, the other shuns family.
One counts calories, the other counts time.
They both love your money.
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Can you solve the JW puzzle about "soul" and "spirit" ?
by Terry inthis is a real puzzler.. .
for christendom at large there is no problem in thinking of humans as a body (tent) which houses the soul.. .
for jehovah's witnesses the human is the tent.
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I always wondered how JW's can read Luke 16:19-31 and NOT realize their whole understanding of this topic is wrong.
The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
The beggar dies, angels carried WHAT to Abraham's side?
Wait a minute, where is Abraham? He should be asleep in death because Jesus hasn't died yet, and only those who die after Jesus can go to heaven?
Where is the rich man? What is happening to the rich man? That's right he's being tormented.
Sure it's not a real account. But Jesus reportedly said those things himself. Jesus knowing all things would have known those statements would cause confusion if the concept of an afterlife was false.
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Two Lies Taught About Ray Franz Jr.
by ÁrbolesdeArabia in1. ray franz went insane and the watchtower society removed him from the governing body out of compassion.. .
"crisis of conscience" is a story of a "man with the agenda to destroy the watchtower", full of hatred and anger.. .
i have finished reading coc and can emphatically tell you, ray writes with great skill, love and compassion for his fellow christians and witnessses.
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As a kid I remember R&F adults talking about how someone in the GB went crazy. Looking back it was about the time Ray Franz left.