just attended the sunday of the zealous kingdom proclaimers district convention in manchester, england and during the final talk we had an update on the world situation as it relates to jehovah's witnesses.
the speaker was peter ellis, a member of the london bethel branch committee.. he stated that many had been waiting for armageddon for some years and some have become disappointed that it hasn't yet arrived, and that newer jw's did not seem to have the same degree of faith as some of the old-timers in the faith, hence this was of serious concern.
then he said something along the lines of 1914 being set in stone and that the organization was not going to get any new light on this key doctrine, hence we can be sure that armageddon is very near.. interesting don't you think?
"1914 being set in stone and that the organization was not going to get any new light on this key doctrine."
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't JWs beleive "new light" is divinely revealed. So does the statment above mean 1. "New light" is actually from men. or 2. They've received "new light" telling them there'll be no more "new light" on 1914.
how long do you think the watchtower can speak about 1914 and have followers think it relevant?
i think for people born in the 1900's, it feels like an acceptable year.
but what about those born since 2000, will 1914 seem like a year of relevance?
The organisation has too many other dates related to 1914 (e.g. 1919, 607) to move it or get rid of it.
If I had to guess, they'll simply keep extending the meaning of generation, and reiterating "the end is even closer now". I've already heard talk along the lines of "a generation was 600+ years in Noah's day". At the same time I suspect they'll fade 1914 from literature over the next decade or two. The end result being 1914 simply never gets mentioned, but is never officially depricated.
As new generations come through the organisation and don't get taught the 1914 doctrine they may drop it.
i typically gave $$$ to the local kh and seldom gave donations to the society.. i always am amazed how some church going people have very little materially, yet make sure the church and the pastors are well taken care of..
Once - $50.
Yet my mum got done for $100K in the 1980s which was an insurance settlement when dad died. At that time 100K would easily buy a very nice house.
Rather than use that money for what it was intended (i.e. looking after kids and a more comfortable life) it went to the organisation. An elder knew she was getting the money and talked her into the donation. As a kid I remember going to the elder's house nearly every w/e invited for dinner ... etc.
i hope this is not a repeat of past threads and i hope to get a lot of response.
i am compiling info of how people are treated within the wts.
i just read the post about a person being counseled for having baby shower games.
Not all me:
Wearing tee-shirts under shirt at meeting (could barely make out logo).
Wearing sunglasses with a logo.
Wearing a hat with a logo.
Drawing on skin with sunscreen.
Talking to opposite sex.
Joining exercise classes.
Working too many hours.
Not employed.
Partaking in too much recreation.
Asking too many questions.
Not accepting answers from literature.
Looking bored during weekly study (was 9 years old).
Not memorising scriptures.
Not answering up.
Wearing fluro socks (1980s).
Tie too bright.
Wearing a red suit (1980s).
anyone give this a try?
i was looking at the site for the new light (about gb=fds) when i noticed the 'login' option.
also didn't see any 'search' option available.
i recall the moment i heard of this on the radio.
but there was little mention of it in months oryears later.. does anyone know what became of the victims?.
And from it sprung a bunch of JW urban myths. Most memorable went something like "If the bomb was placed in the correct angle, everyone in the hall would have been killed".
like many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.
after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).
i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.
The entire like JW culture is based upon adherents NOT thinking and obeying the FDS. So naturally when they discourage higher education followers obey. The culture is also about denying e.g. when they say "No one said you can't go to university" it's probably technically correct, but the reality is all cult members were directed not to go to university.
you know what.
the spin doctors at brookyn can beat any political damage control experts i have ever heard.. perhaps we can give them some help.
the centenery of 1914 is next year, will they celebrate?.
I swear the GB spin doctors have wasted their tallents. Imagine how much they'd earn if they worked for a tobacco or asbestos company!
has anyone watched this?
dude!
this new jw.org site makes me feel like jws are mormons!
As others have quoted. Jesus said it best in Matthew 5;43-48:
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor [a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
has anyone watched this?
dude!
this new jw.org site makes me feel like jws are mormons!
Isn't it wonderful how the Jehovah's Witnesses help their wealthy adherents (Sandy & Japan quake), then make videos to show off their "charity" work.
