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  Just a little anecdote illustrating how out of touch the typical JW is

  by sir82 in

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  this weeks book study lesson was on martha, the sister of lazarus.

  the chapter in the "imitate their faith" book praised her for being "industrious".. the conductor at our congregation meeting was just positively gushing about how "industrious" modern-day jw women are.. he was so exciting, he could barely get the words out.

  following is not an exact quote, but conveys the gist:.

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  Wayward

  Well, James Mixon, Jesus DID call a woman (the Syro-Phoenician I think?) a dog. Even in this day and age, those are fighting words.

  I once had a CO counsel me about my occupation: carpenter/cabinetmaker. I was told it was 'inappropriate' for women, that women aren't 'designed' for 'men's' work. That I didn't have the mental or physical capacity to do the work. Which was a crock. I'd been doing that work since I was sixteen. I should get married and let my husband support me. The local elder who came with him just sat there looking embarrassed, but he didn't have the balls to SAY anything.

  First, as long as its an honest job, it was none of the CO's business WHAT I did. Second, what kind of 50's alternate reality was he living in? Even twenty years ago it was getting harder for families to get by on only one income. Wish I'd kicked him down my apartment stairs! I did NOT quit my job and I met the man I eventually married on the job. We both still work for that company.
  
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  Brother & Sister-in-Law Return to Kingdom Hall After Two Decades, Quickly Get Stumbled

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was a mild surprise, learning that a brother and sister-in-law had began re-associating with jehovah's witnesses after at least 25 years of being away.

  the couple, of hispanic ethnicity, are in their early 60's, with their five children all grown and independent.

  the family had been considered nominal jws, infrequently attending meetings, rarely in field service, but using the annual convention as their family vacation.

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  The KH I used to go to has a large lawn that they use tractors to mow. One weekend it was the designated do-yardwork-at-the-Hall Saturday. That particular time one of the 'brothers' let me drive one of the tractors; don't remember why, but hey! I'm driving the tractor! Beats pulling weeds! I was doing a pretty good job until an elder had a hissy fit and made me stop. Apparently it isn't 'appropriate' for a female to drive a tractor while mowing the KH lawn.
  
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  Could Joel Osteen Bring the JWs Out of Their Doldrums?

  by TMS in

  1. jw
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  russell had some charisma, as did the alcoholic womanizer, j.f.

  rutherford.

  n.h. knorr, not so much.

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  Wayward

  The man has the gift of the gab. I'll give him that. And he also has a gift for conning people into giving him money. Osteen's lifestyle is proof of that. If nothing else, having Joel Osteen at the helm of WTBTS would solve any money woes.
  
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  The Elders want to meet with me and the hubby... Lol lol lol

  by Sevan in

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  so the elders called wanting to meet with me and my husband.

  most likely because i told a concerned jw friend of mine that i really care about that i wasn't coming back and a couple of the issues i had.

  i didn't bring up any so-called "apostate" information, just told her about the australian royal commission and that there are a lot of unscriptural teachings and that the gb apply scriptures that are about jehovah and jesus to themselves, which is idolatry.

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  I hear you, Sevan. JWs really are cowardly when it comes to facing people. But I guess I shouldn't be too hard on them. It's the programming and I know how deep that can go.

  Good for you, standing your ground. Just remember, the elders are only pathetic men on a power trip. Ignore them long enough and eventually something or someone else will come along to distract them from you.
  
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  "Who is Morris III?" Showed up in an FB thread--A surprising answer followed.

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  or maybe not so surprising after all, you be the judge....

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  Didn't the dubs at one time discourage investing in the stock market? Wasn't It supposed to be like gambling? Hmmmm. Seems that went out the window once the WTBTS figured out they could make money from investing in stocks. And wouldn't R&F dubs be told to get rid of any stocks relating to military contractors and/or tobacco?
  
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  Don't know if I'm hearing things.

  by Bigdummy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to the hall with my wife on sunday.

  i try to be there for my wife at some meetings.

  because she is still neck deep in the beliefs and she understands my fading and doesn't.

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  Reading old WT volumes was what convinced me that not only was the WTBTS NOT the truth, it was pure bull. So yes, young ones. By all means, research.
  
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  Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.

  can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.

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  Wayward

  A comment was made that 'The Message' would soon be changing. I asked 'like that the ark door will soon be closing?'. Answer, 'Yes'

  If the message did by some chance change, would anyone really notice? I mean, how many people actually bother to listen to what the JWs say?
  
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  Jehovah's Witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  british columbia, canada.

  jehovah's witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves.

  a pair of devout jehovah's witnesses have been ordered by a b.c.

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  Just to weigh about grandparents' visitation rights: Here in the US the Supreme Court ruled that grandparents do NOT have an absolute right to visitation with grandchildren if the parents refuse to allow it. The parents have the right to decide how much access, if any, to allow. If the grandparents feel that the parent or parents are unfit, they have to go to court to try and get custody.
  
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  Rank & file are seeing the money-grubbing

  by Zoos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  spoke with a fellow apostate from my own area.

  she and i bailed out about the same time and kept in touch.. she used to do secular work with one of the local elders in his cleaning business until she got dfed.

  this same elder was one of the more profound dickheads on my reinstatement committee, before i turned around two years later and daed.. business required her to contact the elder on behalf of an old client.

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  When I was in, it was 'Do more! Do more!" Now it's "Give more! Give more!" But how can ordinary JWs give more? The local congregation is aging. A lot of elderly, many approaching or in middle age, a few families with kids, a few young adults. The elderly are on fixed incomes and CANNOT give more or they won't have anything to live. The families can't give a lot or their kids won't eat. The local economy is not good and those lucky enough to still have jobs live in fear of losing them any day now. Working JWs are hampered by lack of education and skills, stuck in mostly low-paying or even part-time jobs. (With a few exceptions.) Even those who are financially better off can't give a lot because they have uncertain futures to prepare for as best they can. I doubt the situation is unusual.
  
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  Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.

  can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.

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  GB earth-shattering announcement: "All Jehovah's Witnesses are hereby advised to begin selling their material possessions and donate the proceeds to the Society. They will then be issued one-way tickets to the jungles of Guyana where they will have the privilege of building a Paradise Earth. Kool-Aid will be provided. Truly we live in wondrous times!" Thunderous applause.