Slight off topic but does anyone else have the urge to laugh whenever they see CLAM? And Meeting Workborks? That's something grade schoolers do. Wow. This cult has really dumbed down from what it was 15 years ago.
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How the org will spin the Midweek meeting about Child Abuse in Australia
by tor1500 inluke 21:11 says:there will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences;+ and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs.
but verse 12 says:but before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you,+ handing you over to the synagogues and prisons.
you will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name.
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WT “Study” for 18th Sept 2016 – “Grateful Recipients of God’s Undeserved Kindness”
by Nicholaus Kopernicus in“life is to short” has commented on the above study in terms of grace being translated as undeserved kindness in the nwt.
the analysis is quite interesting.. here in this thread, i will be opening up other facets of the “study”.
for example.... paragraph 11 applies the daniel 12:3 phrase – “those having insight” to the “anointed remnant”.
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Ah, 'undeserved kindness'! Nothing gives you the warm fuzzies like God telling you he loves you even though you aren't worthy.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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Do the lives of animals have a purpose? Beyond that of breeding and passing on their genes? Humans are just a higher level of animal. Why do human lives need a higher purpose?
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Can GB be guilty of sinning against Holy Spirit
by Chook inthe crime is ,condoning the removal of and shunning of jw children ,who when older want to express freedom of religion and attend another church.
god created family unit ,gb destroys lives on all levels of family tree.
can this be the unforgivable sin?.
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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The nearest KH in my part of the world is in a rural area five-six miles from where I live and serves four small town. While we were waiting to build it 20+ years ago, we had to drive to a neighboring hall thirty minutes away. Some living farther out had a 45 minute drive or more. That was just for a few months in spring and early summer. It would be a MAJOR problem to try doing it in the middle of a Pennsylvania winter. The main road can be nasty on a winter's night with snow drifting and blowing and ice. I can't see the elderly especially or families risking that on a weekly basis because their hall has been sold.
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I need more faith so I've been told
by hoser ini attended the circus assembly last weekend and i have come to the conclusion i am lacking faith.
the opening talk on the program, the very first words that came out of the speakers mouth told me so.
he said most of us here are lacking faith even though we might not know it.
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What they really mean is 'blind faith'. Those with blind faith will:
1) Neglect their education, settle for dead end jobs and not prepare for the future because the GB says devote that time and money to the org. "The New System is coming soon so why bother?"
2) Will slave until they drop 'doing more' (which will never be enough) and never do anything they really want to. "You can do all that in the New System!"
3) Will make martyrs of themselves or worse, their innocent kids, by refusing blood transfusions. "Don't mourn. You'll see them again in the New System! Maybe. If you toe the line."
4) And will follow the slightest whims of the GB without allowing themselves to ask questions. "They're our ticket to the New System!"
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Suggestions for books to read
by Truthexplorer ini am just about finished 'out of the cocoon' (great book) and am looking for ex jw books to read.. so far i have read:.
crisis of conscience (brilliant/amazing).
in search of christian freedom (interesting).
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If you're looking a more humorous (also sad in places) take on growing up a JW, I recommend Kyria Abrahams' "I'm Perfect You're Doomed". This was the first book I came across that described my life as a JW child to a T. Her glossary of JW terms is a hoot.
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When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?
by TTWSYF ini know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.
i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.
what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.
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No, I never really bought into that particular fairy tale. I HOPED it might be true, but never really deep down BELIEVED. It got even harder to accept as I began to se the old timey rock solid JWs who had been around for the 'Millions Now Living Will Never Die!" announcement die off. They REALLY believed but they're all gone now. My mom still says she hopes she'll never die but she doesn't seem too certain. Its sort of a wistful "Wouldn't it be nice" daydream for her.
I'm just starting to come to terms with knowing that someday (far in the future I hope!) my mom is going to die and I'm going to have to deal with it. My own death doesn't really bother me. It's the idea of possibly outliving everyone I care about that bothers me. I've seen what happens to the elderly who don't have anyone and it gives me some sleepless nights.
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The most sick statement put in JW print
by Chook inwt 1973 p568.
"did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers that stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become maturbators later on?".
what sick fu... writing this article thought the the average person did this to keep kids quiet..
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Funchback, that's too funny! It's especially funny because I can see them writing exactly that.
From the same Washtowel article: "Sisters, when you wipe after doing your business, take care that you do not wipe so hard as to arouse yourselves. Some have chosen to avoid wiping altogether so as to flee from unclean desires. Should you fall into unclean habits, report said habits to your ever loving elders in elaborate detail so they can get off."
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Circuit ASSembly low-lites
by FedUpJW inso in an effort to relieve some pressure here are what i term the low-lites of yesterday's assembly that i had to endure for the sake of family still in and my progressing fade.
apologies in advance for being pretty long winded.. these may not all be the actual words used, but the ones i use are close, and they pretty well say what was said from the platform.. right off the bat in the opening prayer the praises of the governing body were spoken.
thanking the g.b.
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Doubting Bro, wasn't the supposed reason behind ending the Book Study so the dear brothers and sisters could save on gas money? I was gone by then so don't know firsthand but that's what my JWmom told me. Now here they are telling members "Gee, we sold your hall so now you have to drive 20 miles away." No concern about the high price of gas. No concern about the possible dangers of traveling in nasty winter weather. Just "Suck it up, Buttercups!"