Once had to make announcement of a sister's sudden death at service meeting. She had died only 4 or 5 hours earlier in the day, and only a few in the hall knew about it. It was extremely awkward to say the least. I tried to be as compassionate as possible, and I spent 3 or 4 minutes explaining what happened, but it was just the wrong time to make the announcement, given that the show had to go on for another hour. Looking back, the more appropriate time would have been at the conclusion of the meeting for it to be given, so that people could outwardly grieve and console one another. But it was just another announcement to be given, without being thought through as to what would be the best for the one's who really cared for the wonderful and loving lady that she was.
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Did you Observe Medical Emergencies Occur While Meetings Continued On?
by flipper ini've thought a lot about this over the years .
bonafide's thread reminded me of this and how unethical and insensitive it was for jehovah's witnesses meetings to go on without stopping while some rank and file members were having medical emergencies right in the kingdom hall.
my experience i will never forget.. in 1983 i was among some pioneers who were giving experiences at a circuit assembly in front of a crowd of about 2,000. this 83 year old sister was standing at the microphone and when she got done with her part - she sat next to me in her chair on the stage.
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Did you Observe Medical Emergencies Occur While Meetings Continued On?
by flipper ini've thought a lot about this over the years .
bonafide's thread reminded me of this and how unethical and insensitive it was for jehovah's witnesses meetings to go on without stopping while some rank and file members were having medical emergencies right in the kingdom hall.
my experience i will never forget.. in 1983 i was among some pioneers who were giving experiences at a circuit assembly in front of a crowd of about 2,000. this 83 year old sister was standing at the microphone and when she got done with her part - she sat next to me in her chair on the stage.
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This situation happened at one of the last meetings I attended. They had to do the talk, WT study switcharoo because the visiting speaker was running late.
Now get this. The speaker explains that the reason for his tardiness was that he had to drop his wife off at the emergency room, and it was indeed a medical emergency on her part, on his way to the hall. ???? Wait a minute. What?
Yes, you read that correctly. He stated the info like it was a point of honor, implying his loyalty and faithfulness for a theocratic assignment was not to be hindered by a little medical issue concerning his wife. Was he so important and irreplaceable that someone couldn't have pinch- hitted?
Even my wife saw the absurdity of the situation, if she cussed even she would have said WTF? Looking back, I wonder if he had time to take the brothers up on the Lunch hospitality usually offered?
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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam
by Dagney ini was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.
in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.
they both are undergoing major remodels.
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A little over 30 years ago was at a KH in northern California, and we decided on a remodel. We all had the needed skills locally to do the work. I think the total costs was around $7500 dollars, we added bathrooms, walkways, stairs, new carpet and flooring, all finished and done professionally in about 6 weeks time. The cong pooled the funds together locally, and was paid for. Work would have if hired out, cost 60 or 70k to have done.
Hall was recently tore down, new hall built, nothing was wrong with old hall. Only difference is that local bros now do not own hall, and have large ongoing monthly payment. Was no need for new KH, no growth in area.
Heard of a KH in the Houston TX. area that spent well over $150k for a parking lot. No rumour, straight from one of the members. We are both in the building industry, and I told him that there was no possible way that the materials could have cost even a quarter of that amount. Where was the free labor?
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If you have researched and read the information that your early posts imply, there is no way possible that you could intellectually and seriously be asking this question. We reach a point of having to make a decision as to what we do with our new found knowledge, and the consequences that our future actions will bring.
Perhaps that is why your questioning things now is being "emotionally driven". Losing friends and family by standing up for what is honest and true is not easy for anyone. I know this to personally be true. Many JW's will not question any doubts because deep down they know it would upset the status quo of their current families. It sounds like you are at a crossroads, but your decisions don't have to be immediate. Take your time. Get your questions answered. It has taken me a couple of years to get where I'm at now, and I know that its not easy.
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You Might be a Jehovah's Witness if . . .
by sizemik inyou might be a jehovah's witness if .
you know when nisan 14 is but you forget you own birthday.
you wash windows for a living but you own five suits.
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You taped WT and Awake magazines to the inside of your car when traveling to assemblies so as to be readily identified by others on the road doing the exact same thing.
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Here are 5 reasons that the FDS is imaginary
by Terry infive reasons why the "faithful and discreet slave" class is imaginary:.
1 the wts has been inconsistent about who the slave is.
until 1895 it taught that the slave is the whole body of christ.
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When I first read the acknowledgement that perhaps some of the Memorial partakers were emotionally or mentally troubled (crazy), I immediately thought are they really saying this, dont they realize the implications of what they are saying. OK, so which ones of the current or previous GB's fall into this category? I would safely conclude that all are to say the least sociopathic given that no concern is given to the consequences of their legislating people's lives. They obviously fail to ever think anything through, or simply dont care.
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Do you think your marriage would have survived if it wasn,t for the borg?
by jam inin my case, it was the only thing that kept us togather.. if it wasn,t for the cult we would have split a year after.
i return from vietnam, married two weeks before going.
to nam.
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Realistically, all of the major conflicts in my marriage were the result of the fruitage of the controlling and all pervasive legalism that saturates those in the truth (or Borg, same thing). My views on faithfulness, unconditional love, and marital fidelity would have been the same even if I had not been a JW. My feelings as regards the endless details and minutae of our second by second existance, was that Jehovah knew what was really right, and he would sort it out in the end. In other words, just dont sweat the small stuff. I remember the Meeting where it was stated that you shouldn't hold hands with your spouse during a prayer. For me that was the straw that broke the camel's back. Looking back I realized at that point I was done.
My wife has never acknowledged that the source of the majority of our conflict was actually the organization and its dogma that is supposed to keep marriages strong. A little over a year ago, I expressed to her that I could not with a clear bible trained conscience continue to shun my dis-fellowshipped son, who I felt was clearly having mental and emotional issues because of the shunning. In know way could I ever justify such a course if called to account before God. I felt that he was clearly heading toward suicide.
She however felt differently, and in retospect and meditating on the "witch hunt" mentality perpetuated by the borg particularly during the last couple of years, she felt that no doubt I was an apostate, of the "mentally diseased" variety. After almost 30 years of marriage my wife chose to follow the direction of a group of men who have demonstated that they have not the smallest degree of human compassion for their fellow man, and she left.
No one should ever be put in the position of choosing which "loved one" they love the most, and using the false excuse that it is showing loyalty to god.
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Compare JW technophobia with Mormon interests
by Terry ini thought this article was rather revealing:.
why do mormons love pinterest?
on one level, it's not surprising that pinterest, the social bookmarking service where users curate images by 'pinning' them with links and commentary to themed boards, is a hit with mormons.
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What I have noticed especially in the past couple of years is the aggresive media campaigns designed to cast Mormons in a positive
light. As I type this post, there are four paid Google Ads at the top of the page no doubt paid for by LDS, and you can't search on Youtube
without a "And I'm a Mormon" video showing up at the top, regardless of what you were searching for. Have seen many a slick tv commercial
also. I think that they have been and are continuing these these campaigns to distance them from the fringe Mormon polygamist groups
and the Warren Jeffs type groups. They fight back with strong advertising.
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Post Good Music, Any Genre
by leavingwt in.
i hope everyone is having a great saturday night (or sunday morning).. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0tge2n3nke.
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Let's try this again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRrK2BlhdEA
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Post Good Music, Any Genre
by leavingwt in.
i hope everyone is having a great saturday night (or sunday morning).. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0tge2n3nke.
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