Posts by proplog2

for all who would like to engage in a stimulating, thought-provoking discussion on the identity of the "kings of the earth" (revelation 21:24-26) wherein a fresh, innovative approach to understanding this interesting topic is presented, please see the following link found below:.

http://www.hourglass2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30.

agape,.

proplog2

When these scriptures were written people viewed a powerful kingdom had wealth to purchase goods from distant lands. It is a picture of vassal kings paying tribute to a powerful and influential leader.

Are they the same? It doesn't matter. They certainly are similar.

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The "Kings of The Earth" (Revelation 21:24-26)

by Jamaican JW in

for all who would like to engage in a stimulating, thought-provoking discussion on the identity of the "kings of the earth" (revelation 21:24-26) wherein a fresh, innovative approach to understanding this interesting topic is presented, please see the following link found below:.

http://www.hourglass2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30.

agape,.

proplog2

Well Jamaican it looks like you have few takers here or on hourglass.

So much for lively discussion on this subject.

Down she goes.

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Dubs that defied the blood ban?

by greendawn in

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do you know of any jws that have left the wts or were dfed because of the blood issue defying the blood ban and taking blood for themselves or their children so that they wouldn't die, needlessly of course?

we hear much about dubs that were brainwashed enough to go on to the bitter end but there must be many that pulled out of the insanity.

even so some may feel plagued by guilt and anxiety for defying the ban.

proplog2

I know a woman who had a child with an unbelieving husband. If she were to die her son would have been raised by worldly people. She needed a heart valve and at that time it required blood. She had the surgery. She was disfellowshipped. She was reinstated. She raised her son to be a JW.

She needed another valve late in life. She had the operation without blood and died.

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The "Kings of The Earth" (Revelation 21:24-26)

by Jamaican JW in

for all who would like to engage in a stimulating, thought-provoking discussion on the identity of the "kings of the earth" (revelation 21:24-26) wherein a fresh, innovative approach to understanding this interesting topic is presented, please see the following link found below:.

http://www.hourglass2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30.

agape,.

proplog2

The situation in Revelation 21 parallels some statements in Daniel 7:27,28

The Bible does not agree with the Watchtower scenario for the institution of Kingdom Government on Earth.

It appears that the Holy Ones emerge from a conflict called the Great Tribulation which is centered in the third of the Earth that has benefited from selfish capitalism. It is the third of the Earth that includes the King of the North and the King of the South and its Revelation homologues (Wild Beast (Seventh and Eight head of which is Russia) and Babylon the Great (USA)).

Although the upheaval in the world order will affect everyone it will mainly devastate the privileged or Golden third. Daniel 7:11,12 "I kept on beholding until the beast was killed and its body was destroyed and it was given to the burning fire (Rev. 19:20) . But as for the rest of the beasts, their rulerships were taken away and there was a lengthening in life given to them for a time and a season."

The fact that this involves a lengthy process is seen at Dan.2:35 "And as for the stone that struck the image, it became a large mountain and filled the whole earth."

Members of this forum are celebrating the ineffectiveness of the preaching that JW's are doing. The low numbers are a sign that the preaching work is done.

Because of the worldwide brotherhood JW's can flee to safer havens with their "relatives" who live in lands perihperal to the devastation.

The hardened cadre of "Holy Ones" numbering around 6 million are actually a new nation. They are the same size as the average Nation in the United Nations. Like it or not they WILL take over world rulership as they obey the Universal Court.

Daniel 7:26,27 "And the Court itself proceeded to sit, and his own rulership they finally took away, in order to annihilate him and to destroy him totally. And the kingdom and the rulership and the grandeur of the kingdoms under all the heavens were given to the people who are the holy ones of the Supreme One. Their kingdom is an indefinitely lasting kingdom and all the rulerships will serve and obey even them."

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The "Kings of The Earth" (Revelation 21:24-26)

by Jamaican JW in

for all who would like to engage in a stimulating, thought-provoking discussion on the identity of the "kings of the earth" (revelation 21:24-26) wherein a fresh, innovative approach to understanding this interesting topic is presented, please see the following link found below:.

http://www.hourglass2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30.

agape,.

proplog2

It is an interesting topic. But I don't believe you'll get anyone here to discuss it with you over there. Why don't you just carry on your discussion here?

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who is king of the south/north?

by badboy in

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what is present teaching?

proplog2

After the King of the North attacks the King of the South there is no more mention of the King of the South.

JW's started in the USA. It's no wonder they are American centered.

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The Internet: A greater threat to the WTS than we ever dreamed

by Elsewhere in

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change "politician" to "watchtower leadership" and "voter" to "jehover's witness".

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20061004/2006-10-04t005304z_01_l03419567_rtridst_0_news-google-politicians-dc.html.

google boss warns politicians about internet power.

proplog2

The internet has been the most significant change since the invention of the electric generator that has made modern life possible.

Only one thing remains to trump all other inventions and discoveries - contact with alliens from another dimension/planet/time.

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who is king of the south/north?

by badboy in

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what is present teaching?

proplog2

If the King of the North / King of the South really applies to our day there is only one possibility.

Russia is the King of the North

No empire North of Russia

It still has nuclear weapons targeted toward the USA. The USA still has Russia in its cross hairs.

They are still rivals. Russia is allies with the nations that Bush calls the axis of evil.

The USA is pushing against Russia in the Caucasus region and promoting color revolutions.

The original deal was that the Soviet Union would allow East & West Germany to re-unite but that NATO would not push into the former sphere of the Soviet Union. The USA has not kept its word. Gorbachev was an idiot for giving so much up without any binding written agreement.

If you have any doubt about the fact that the US and Russia are still pushing each other do a google news search on relations between the countries of Georgia and Russia. Most Americans are oblivious to what is going on there.

According to Daniel Russia finally gets tired of this and attacks the King of the South.

What is puzzling is why the Watchtower can't figure this out.

Maybe it was in the interest of the Watchtower to quit talking about Russia as the King of the North so they could build up membership there. It would have made Russia even angrier if they were bombarded with printed material that identified them as the King of the North that would eventually be destroyed by the invisible hand of Jehovah.